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re: Todays' Affluenza report: 100mph police chase, 7th offense DUI=no jail time
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:12 am to dukke v
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:12 am to dukke v
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And you have NEVER done this??????
When I was young and stupid I did. Thankfully I learned my lesson before I killed anyone. But like i mentioned in my post above, you go stand at the graveside and watch as a casket is lowered in the ground and you look over at a father holding two kids and you can see that their whole world is crashing down around them, it will change your opinion 180 degrees on being soft on habitual dunk drivers.
I can see giving a pass once to a kid who's young & dumb. We all go through that phase. But these guys who get one DUI after another are a different story.
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:16 am to Darth_Vader
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it will change your opinion 180 degrees on being soft on habitual dunk drivers.
I agree that they need to be dealt with better...
But how.. Sending them to prison for 20 years at hard labor after the third one is My idea.. No chance for early release no matter how much money you have.. This should be nationwide.. If you kill someone with your 1st or 2nd then it should be at least 30 years min. No questions asked... No plea bargins or anything like that...
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:19 am to Darth_Vader
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I'll bet all the people who've had to bury their wife, husbands, kids, etc. would beg to differ on the ridiculousness of locking up habitual drunk drivers. I personally know of at least one father & 2 kids who lost their mother to a drunk driver who was already on his 3rd or 4th strike.
Its illogical and inefficient to generate legislation from the emotions of victims.
MADD has done more harm than good. Energy and effort should be put into preventative measures, not reactionary.
Make driving test MUCH MUCH harder and make driving age 17 or 18. Instead of increasing the jail time for offenders, increase license suspension period and make them do community service until their hands bleed, which helps everyone. Put breathalyzers in their vehicles for years after they get their license back.
Over-incarceration costs taxpayers an outrageous amount of money and cripples the ability of offenders to become productive members of society with these things on their record. Both are drains on the economy.
Jails should be reserved for people that are seen unfit to live in the general population. Drunk drivers aren't violent offenders and don't have malicious intent. They're just stupid.
Hell, if you want, lets suspend their license for 5 years for second offense and life for 3rd offense.
You might think its insensitive, but its actually just smart.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:20 am to dukke v
Too bad he didn't accidentally run a path straight through a group of wanna be badasses riding on scooters with thighs that would make a Kardashian jealous while he was at .16
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:21 am to dukke v
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I agree that they need to be dealt with better...
But how.. Sending them to prison for 20 years at hard labor after the third one is My idea.. No chance for early release no matter how much money you have.. This should be nationwide.. If you kill someone with your 1st or 2nd then it should be at least 30 years min. No questions asked... No plea bargins or anything like that...
I agree. Right now people can get one DUI after another and not even slow down. They need to make the punishment so draconian that people finally see it as not worth the risk to drink and drive.
I mentioned it earlier in this thread but I think it's pathetic that there are guys sitting in prison for years for selling pot while other guys get one DUI after another and nothing is done to stop them.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:21 am to Darth_Vader
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When I was young and stupid I did. Thankfully I learned my lesson before I killed anyone. But like i mentioned in my post above, you go stand at the graveside and watch as a casket is lowered in the ground and you look over at a father holding two kids and you can see that their whole world is crashing down around them, it will change your opinion 180 degrees on being soft on habitual dunk drivers.
You can be hard on someone without putting them in jail and costing everyone tons of money.
Again, you can't involve emotions in this. Put breathalyzers in their car after 1st offense and they can't be a repeat offenders in their vehicle.
2nd offense, suspend 5 years, massive amounts of community service, and breathalyzer in their car for the first 5 years post-license suspension.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:22 am to TheCaterpillar
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Drunk drivers aren't violent offenders and don't have malicious intent. They're just stupid.
This guy has been CAUGHT 7 times for DUI and no telling how many times he has done it without being caught... He has no remorse cause he is rich.. To me That is malicious intent...
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:23 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:I'm gonna toss in a write in vote for TheCaterpillar in the next general election.
Its illogical and inefficient to generate legislation from the emotions of victims.
MADD has done more harm than good. Energy and effort should be put into preventative measures, not reactionary.
Make driving test MUCH MUCH harder and make driving age 17 or 18. Instead of increasing the jail time for offenders, increase license suspension period and make them do community service until their hands bleed, which helps everyone. Put breathalyzers in their vehicles for years after they get their license back.
Over-incarceration costs taxpayers an outrageous amount of money and cripples the ability of offenders to become productive members of society with these things on their record. Both are drains on the economy.
Jails should be reserved for people that are seen unfit to live in the general population. Drunk drivers aren't violent offenders and don't have malicious intent. They're just stupid.
Hell, if you want, lets suspend their license for 5 years for second offense and life for 3rd offense.
You might think its insensitive, but its actually just smart.
Who's with me!!!
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:24 am to SuperSaint
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wanna be badass
That term fits you to a tee.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:27 am to TheCaterpillar
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2nd offense, suspend 5 years,
w/o the ability to get a hardsship license?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:29 am to TheCaterpillar
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Again, you can't involve emotions in this. Put breathalyzers in their car after 1st offense and they can't be a repeat offenders in their vehicle. 2nd offense, suspend 5 years, massive amounts of community service, and breathalyzer in their car for the first 5 years post-license suspension.
The main objective is to keep them off the road.. These thing s will NOT do it...
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:32 am to dukke v
Would there be public outrage if they put those things in cars standard that you have to blow in in order for them to start? Do you think it would have an impact on DUI numbers?
I personally wouldn't care if it was standard equipment in a car. I'm not saying make it a LAW, but if all of the automakers decided to put it in then I could see that maybe helping some.
I personally wouldn't care if it was standard equipment in a car. I'm not saying make it a LAW, but if all of the automakers decided to put it in then I could see that maybe helping some.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:35 am to dukke v
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The main objective is to keep them off the road.. These thing s will NOT do it...
Good point. If we're going to save tax dollars, lets start elsewhere. I'm sure there's plenty of pork that can be trimmed that would more than pay for the long-term incarceration of habitual drunk drivers.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:35 am to Darth_Vader
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They need to make the punishment so draconian that people finally see it as not worth the risk to drink and drive.
It has been proven over centuries that draconian punishment is not an effective deterrent.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:37 am to dukke v
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He has no remorse cause he is rich..
I doubt the two are related.
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This guy has been CAUGHT 7 times for DUI and no telling how many times he has done it without being caught..
I agreed this guy should be in jail. He is an extreme case.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:38 am to htownjeep
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Would there be public outrage if they put those things in cars standard that you have to blow in in order for them to start? Do you think it would have an impact on DUI numbers?
I personally wouldn't care if it was standard equipment in a car. I'm not saying make it a LAW, but if all of the automakers decided to put it in then I could see that maybe helping some.
They are extremely annoying. Randomly starts beeping mid-drive to blow. Would cause accidents if everyone on the road had to do it.
Maybe to start the car and I'd be ok with that. But you'd have to make it be .08 or lower to drive.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:40 am to dukke v
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Again, you can't involve emotions in this. Put breathalyzers in their car after 1st offense and they can't be a repeat offenders in their vehicle. 2nd offense, suspend 5 years, massive amounts of community service, and breathalyzer in their car for the first 5 years post-license suspension.
The main objective is to keep them off the road.. These thing s will NOT do it...
The main objective is to keep them off the road after drinking. I know people who have had those breathalyzers in their car, and trust me that shite works.
And suspended their license and taking their vehicle away (like a BUI) would most certainly prevent them from driving.
And if they get a hardship for work, put the breathalyzer in their car and prevent it from starting outside of certain time periods.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:41 am to TheCaterpillar
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It has been proven over centuries that draconian punishment is not an effective deterrent.
Then why even have prisons?
And speaking of deterrents, it would be impossible for this guy to have got his 7th DUI had he been put away on his 3rd offense. I'd say in that regard it's a damn good deterrent.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:42 am to Darth_Vader
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Good point. If we're going to save tax dollars, lets start elsewhere. I'm sure there's plenty of pork that can be trimmed that would more than pay for the long-term incarceration of habitual drunk drivers.
It not only saves tax dollars, but keeps businesses running, families together, citizens spending money, and provides community service for the community.
If they don't do their community service or get caught behind the wheel, put them in jail. Suspend their license for a year as well as a 1 year suspended jail sentence.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:43 am to TheCaterpillar
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I agreed this guy should be in jail. He is an extreme case.
I think we agree more than either of us realize here. I'm all for giving second chances to someone who makes one mistake. The one's I want to see locked up for a long time are the one's like this guy who get one DUI after another.
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