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Today is Dead Hitler Day
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:37 am
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:37 am
On this day in 1945, Hitler and his wife commit suicide. How might the war have changed if Claus von Stauffenberg had succeeded in killing him at the Wolfs lair in July of 1944? What say the OT
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:45 am to StarkRebel
or Did he?
You need to read this first...
You need to read this first...
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:46 am to StarkRebel
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:53 am to StarkRebel
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What say the OT
There was a coup de tat planned to remove Hitler long before that.
A well organized group of army officers has plans underway to remove Hitler from power during the negotiations with Neville Chamberlain in Munich (1938).
They were positive Hitler was going to take them to war, and feared the consequences. Their entire plan crumbled when Chamberlain caved thus making Hitler a hero in Germany.
History would have been completely different if Hitler was removed then.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:55 am to RebelOP
Never saw that one.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:00 am to StarkRebel
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How might the war have changed if Claus von Stauffenberg had succeeded in killing him at the Wolfs lair in July of 1944?
That just wasn't mean to be. The series of events that led to Hitler's survival are crazy.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:04 am to GetCocky11
The November 8, 1939 attempt on Hitler's life would have paid higher dividends, by 1944 much of the damage had been done and the Russians then weren't going to be easily appeased.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:08 am to StarkRebel
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How might the war have changed if Claus von Stauffenberg had succeeded in killing him at the Wolfs lair in July of 1944? What say the OT
At the time of Count Stauff's bomb attempt, the Allied terms for German surrender were the same whether Hitler was dead or alive. The terms were complete and Unconditional Surrender.
No negotiated surrender whatsoever, whether or not the Germans had managed to kill Hitler, overthrow the Nazi Govt and set up a new govt that wanted peace. The terms were Unconditional Surrender, period.
Some dislocation in German military high command might have occurred, but, the war may have continued, even had Hitler been killed early.
Many of the German military leaders were fighting, not for Hitler, but because they were fighting against Unconditional Surrender. The term "Unconditional Surrender" was not defined by the Allies, and it could have meant the dissolution of Germany as a nation-state. That's what many of the German military leaders believed would happen -- the end of Germany as a country, and the end of the German citizen that was not a subject of a foreign power -- so they would have fought on whether Hitler was dead or alive.
That's my opinion.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 9:19 am
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