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re: Tire manufacturer warranty

Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:59 am to
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Regardless, don't buy tires from the dealer.


I haven't before. This is a unique situation (to us), simply because the vehicle is only 2 years old and I thought 25K miles on a set of tires is minimal. Turns out, this may be considered normal and "good" for this type of tire.

When I purchased tires for my vehicle about 9 months ago, I looked online but didn't find any noticeable savings when compared to a local company. This local company cut me a deal, because I paid cash and didn't charge tax.
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18791 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:00 am to
Michelin Latitude Tour HP

6 year, 55k tread life warranty.
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18791 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:02 am to
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Regardless, don't buy tires from the dealer. If you need tires get them from Discount Tire on the net. They are much better priced. I bought some and after about 15k miles got a nail too near the sidewall and because I had the road hazzard coverage, they sent me a new tire without any hassle.


A lot of dealers are doing the buy 3 get one free thing now. Plus they come with road hazard. It might be worth it to at least check into it.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:03 am to
I got a better price from local Ford dealer on tires for my truck.

Pretty much the same as TireRack w/o the hassle of shipping, etc.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:04 am to
What kind of vehicle?
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:07 am to
I work at a new car dealer and the ties are warranted through the tire manufacturer not the auto manufacturer.

With that being said, the dealer service is trying to sell tires. Check the tires yourself or go to manufacturer of tires like someone above recommended. When tires need replacing is an opinion. Some wait till they get to the indicators, personally I do it sooner, because I don't like loss of traction when I'm on a wet road.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:07 am to
'13 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum edition.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:08 am to
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With that being said, the dealer service is trying to sell tires. Check the tires yourself or go to manufacturer of tires like someone above recommended. When tires need replacing is an opinion. Some wait till they get to the indicators, personally I do it sooner, because I don't like loss of traction when I'm on a wet road.




I will follow your recommendation. I'd rather error on the side of caution, as I have my three most important people in the world to me that use this vehicle regularly.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:09 am to
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Michelin Latitude Tour HP

6 year, 55k tread life warranty.



Thank you for the recommendation.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:10 am to
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'13 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum edition


I am a fiend for replacing stuff before it breaks, but I would have serious questions about replacing tires that early.

That said, I am not a fan of Toyo tires.

I would eyeball them and check tread depth with a depth gauge and see where I was at.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:13 am to
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I am a fiend for replacing stuff before it breaks, but I would have serious questions about replacing tires that early.

That said, I am not a fan of Toyo tires.

I would eyeball them and check tread depth with a depth gauge and see where I was at.


I will do just that once I get the vehicle back today. My wife liked the "Platinum" option and 20" Toyo's came with the package.

Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5580 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:14 am to
I'm curious as to the vehicle as well. I'm putting tires on mine today. I have an X5 with big arse tires. I knew the tires would be expensive but what I didn't count on was replacing them every 25k miles. The front and rear are different sizes so you can't rotate them. The rear tires go for around $450 a piece with the front slightly cheaper. Compared to your basic 17 inch sedan tire and shorter tread life, I'm paying roughly 6 times what an accord owner spends on tires. They don't put that in the fricking brochure.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:17 am to
NVH is a big deal in the premium SUV market. (all cars, really)

One of the ways you reduce NVH is with softer compound tires.

Unfortunately, softer compounds wear quicker, thus tires don't last.

Posted by HooDooWitch
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Member since Sep 2009
10267 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:19 am to
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I have my three most important people in the world to me that use this vehicle regularly.


Good. Always error on the side of safety when family is in the mix.
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
10267 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:27 am to
Like vetguy said. Performance vehicle like bmw's, run soft rubber tires because they grip the road better.... Coincidentally performance car drivers typically run the car harder and wear the tires down quicker. I had a 04 GTO and ripped through the tires in 18 months, but I had a lot of fun doing it!
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:30 am to
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Always error on the side of safety when family is in the mix.


That attitude saved me some heartache.

I bought my wife a brand-new Ford Explorer Limited in 1996 after we had the baby.

Almost from day one it had a mysterious vibration that would come and go at highway speeds. I tracked it to the tires and had the dealer balance and rotate them several times.

Finally, at less than 10,000 miles I replaced them my damn self with Michelins. I just never trusted those tires.

A few months later, reports of Ford Explorers rolling over due to Firestone tires started getting commonplace.


I felt very lucky.

Trust your gut.


Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35521 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:09 am to
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Generally, the better quality tire, the softer the tire compound. The good tires wear faster.


Not true. Softer compounds are used for higher performance tires for better grip and handling. Conversely, Continental makes some pretty damned good tires that have 70k tread wear warranties that don't utilize softer compounds.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35521 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:12 am to
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They don't put that in the fricking brochure.


If you buy a high end brand you should expect that high end parts are going to be used in it. If your tires are directional you can't even rotate them side to side.
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
10267 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:40 am to
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reports of Ford Explorers rolling over due to Firestone tires started getting commonplace.


I remember that. I believe the investigators conclusion was Ford had an issue with the ride of some SUV's being excessively harsh and their fix was to deliver the new vehicles at a lower tire pressure to soften the ride, a common practice by many motorist, but when they were run at to low a presser it caused the ties to over heat and fail.

~ Wikipedia remembers it a little different but the part about Ford lowering air pressure is accurate.

quote:

Instead, Ford, which sets the specifications for the manufacture of its tires, decided to remove air from the tires, lowering the recommended pressure to 26 psi


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This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 11:56 am
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Instead, Ford, which sets the specifications for the manufacture of its tires, decided to remove air from the tires, lowering the recommended pressure to 26 psi


Yeah, the thinking was that the lower pressure allowed/could make the tires overheat.

Now I understand that running tires low on air will indeed make the tires run hotter. Think about how many actually blow out b/c of that though?

I personally think there were some defects in the tire, having do with belt separation and construction. Just my opinion.
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