- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Thinkin about becoming an ordained minister. Need advice.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:00 pm to mattytiger123
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:00 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
Well, you're wrong. The orthodox, anglican, and catholic churches all have a very rich, deep intellectual tradition, and require higher education to be ordained. Even most relevant Southern Baptist churches require an M.Div from one of their (admittedly illegitimate) seminairies, in order to be a Senior Pastor.
Meh. Most leaders in the local churches in almost every city and town do not hold a master's degree. I guess if you are wanting to work for joel olsteen you may need one.
1
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:00 pm to mattytiger123
Coming to the OT for spiritual advice is like going to a titty bar to look at dicks.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:00 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
How's he wrong?
Read the rest of the post. Sure, you can buy a certificate, or a small evangelical church will print you up one if you are being mentored by their pastor, but you won't be ordained in any major liturgical denomination without an M.Div
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:00 pm to The First Cut
quote:
No caveat. I said ordained all along.
The ordained part was not the caveat. The major denomination reference was the caveat.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:00 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
Yes, and I agree. I have a love for teaching, and now a love for Christ and his church. I wouldn't do this strictly for buisness, and will wind up doing some form of ministry even if I'm just a struggling academic, who leads a small group at his house on Wednesdays. The only buisness decision is whether or not I invest in a Theological education.
Good deal, man. My dad got his doctorate from a seminary and is a preacher/teacher. God bless you in whatever method of service you follow Him.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:01 pm to mattytiger123
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:02 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
Read the rest of the post.
I did.
quote:
Sure, you can buy a certificate, or a small evangelical church will print you up one if you are being mentored by their pastor, but you won't be ordained in any major liturgical denomination without an M.Div
Like I said. He added the caveat to which you are now referring.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:02 pm to Mo Jeaux
Well religious denominations are the only groups that ordain ministers. I'm not sure what you expected. Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:04 pm to jlu03
Could you imagine being the guy doing this shite show and thinking "these people throw money at me because they think I have some sort of divine power? If I had any morals at all I would not think this money is so awesome and probably kill myself for stealing money from idiots."
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:05 pm to The First Cut
quote:
Well religious denominations are the only groups that ordain ministers. I'm not sure what you expected.
Do you have reading comprehension problems? Major denomination. Major. Major. It's an adjective. It modifies the term "denomination."
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:06 pm to mattytiger123
1"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber. 2"But he who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep.…"
Pope Benedict XVI "Ordination Mass at St. Peter's Basilica" May 7, 2006
It is through him that one must enter the service of shepherd. Jesus highlights very clearly this basic condition by saying: "he who... climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber" (Jn 10:1). This word "climbs" - anabainei in Greek - conjures up the image of someone climbing over a fence to get somewhere out of bounds to him.
"To climb" - here too we can also see the image of careerism, the attempt to "get ahead", to gain a position through the Church: to make use of and not to serve. It is the image of a man who wants to make himself important, to become a person of note through the priesthood; the image of someone who has as his aim his own exaltation and not the humble service of Jesus Christ.
But the only legitimate ascent towards the shepherd's ministry is the Cross. This is the true way to rise; this is the true door. It is not the desire to become "someone" for oneself, but rather to exist for others, for Christ, and thus through him and with him to be there for the people he seeks, whom he wants to lead on the path of life.
Pope Benedict XVI "Ordination Mass at St. Peter's Basilica" May 7, 2006
It is through him that one must enter the service of shepherd. Jesus highlights very clearly this basic condition by saying: "he who... climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber" (Jn 10:1). This word "climbs" - anabainei in Greek - conjures up the image of someone climbing over a fence to get somewhere out of bounds to him.
"To climb" - here too we can also see the image of careerism, the attempt to "get ahead", to gain a position through the Church: to make use of and not to serve. It is the image of a man who wants to make himself important, to become a person of note through the priesthood; the image of someone who has as his aim his own exaltation and not the humble service of Jesus Christ.
But the only legitimate ascent towards the shepherd's ministry is the Cross. This is the true way to rise; this is the true door. It is not the desire to become "someone" for oneself, but rather to exist for others, for Christ, and thus through him and with him to be there for the people he seeks, whom he wants to lead on the path of life.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:06 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
I'm currently obtaining my MA in Philosophy.
You're fricked. Go to law school.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:07 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:
You're fricked. Go to law school.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:07 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
I wouldn't do this strictly for buisness, and will wind up doing some form of ministry even if I'm just a struggling academic, who leads a small group at his house on Wednesdays. The only buisness decision is whether or not I invest in a Theological education.
Sounds like what you are saying is you aren't sure what you are called to do and it could be anywhere from being an active and involved church member all the way up to being a senior pastor. If that's the case, I would suspect (just based on what you've posted) you haven't felt a calling for what most folks would call "the ministry". If you think you are feeling such a call, then you should do more than talk to the people you listed, such as spend a great deal of time in prayer, studying the Bible, and talking to people in the ministry who you respect. I'm sure you know you don't have to be an ordained minister to make a considerable impact for God.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:07 pm to mattytiger123
I always heard that those who can-- DO and those who can't teach
So you have it backwards- try the minister work first and if it does not work out you can always fall back on teaching
So you have it backwards- try the minister work first and if it does not work out you can always fall back on teaching
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:08 pm to 13SaintTiger
You literally NEED to achieve a graduate degree from seminary in order to be ordained in the Catholic, Anglican, or Orthodox churches. If you look at the major baptist churches in New Orleans, most every head pastor has at least an M.Div. And i would actually have to reach lesser requirements if I wanted to work for the likes of Joel Osteen.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:08 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Do you have reading comprehension problems? Major denomination. Major. Major. It's an adjective. It modifies the term "denomination."
I don't have any reading comprehension problems at all. I say major because I do not profess to be an expert in every little one shop denomination there is on the face of this earth. Religious organizations that have a governing body have seminaries. Those seminaries require an undergraduate degree prior to entry. I'm sorry that you're finding there's more to this than what you thought.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:13 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
You literally NEED to achieve a graduate degree from seminary in order to be ordained in the Catholic, Anglican, or Orthodox churches
and Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian...
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:16 pm to jlu03
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:18 pm to mattytiger123
quote:So you want to go from beginner to master overnight? You need a lot more than a degree to be a true spiritual leader. More importantly, you need to seek God's guidance and not the guidance of the OT Lounge.
new found belief in the divine,
Page 3 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News