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The Time has Come to Consider Nukes on these Monster Storms.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:47 pm
These monster hurricanes give me the creeps. It is high time that we consider using nukes on these things.
Yea or Nay.
Yea or Nay.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:48 pm to Champagne
Nay. It wouldn't do anything. The hurricane center has a writeup about it. LINK
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During each hurricane season, there always appear suggestions that one should simply use nuclear weapons to try and destroy the storms. Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems. Needless to say, this is not a good idea. Now for a more rigorous scientific explanation of why this would not be an effective hurricane modification technique.
The main difficulty with using explosives to modify hurricanes is the amount of energy required. A fully developed hurricane can release heat energy at a rate of 5 to 20x1013 watts and converts less than 10% of the heat into the mechanical energy of the wind. The heat release is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes. According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate of 1013 watts in 1990, a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane. If we think about mechanical energy, the energy at humanity's disposal is closer to the storm's, but the task of focusing even half of the energy on a spot in the middle of a remote ocean would still be formidable.
Brute force interference with hurricanes doesn't seem promising. In addition, an explosive, even a nuclear explosive, produces a shock wave, or pulse of high pressure, that propagates away from the site of the explosion somewhat faster than the speed of sound. Such an event doesn't raise the barometric pressure after the shock has passed because barometric pressure in the atmosphere reflects the weight of the air above the ground. For normal atmospheric pressure, there are about ten metric tons (1000 kilograms per ton) of air bearing down on each square meter of surface. In the strongest hurricanes there are nine. To change a Category 5 hurricane into a Category 2 hurricane you would have to add about a half ton of air for each square meter inside the eye, or a total of a bit more than half a billion (500,000,000) tons for a 20 km radius eye. It's difficult to envision a practical way of moving that much air around.
Attacking weak tropical waves or depressions before they have a chance to grow into hurricanes isn't promising either. About 80 of these disturbances form every year in the Atlantic basin, but only about 5 become hurricanes in a typical year. There is no way to tell in advance which ones will develop. If the energy released in a tropical disturbance were only 10% of that released in a hurricane, it's still a lot of power, so that the hurricane police would need to dim the whole world's lights many times a year.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:49 pm to Telstra
I'm sure seeding the outflow with fallout would be worth it not doing anything to the hurricane.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:49 pm to Champagne
Yep. Nothing says brilliant move more than detonating a nuclear weapon into the middle of funnels moving towards population centers
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:50 pm to Champagne
That's what we need, nuclear hurricanes.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:54 pm to Champagne
I'm not sure I have heard of a more stupid idea in quite some time.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:54 pm to Telstra
Modern nuclear weapons are more efficient and fallout is less of a problem
I see no reason why we shouldnt try it on on irma while shes way out at sea, would provide a lot of info
Dont think it would work, would just be cool AF to nuke a hurricane
I see no reason why we shouldnt try it on on irma while shes way out at sea, would provide a lot of info
Dont think it would work, would just be cool AF to nuke a hurricane
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:56 pm to Champagne
Somebody has been watching sharknado
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:58 pm to Champagne
I always wonder is there a way we can just freeze all the water and clouds? Call Mr. Freeze.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:01 pm to Boh
Just the photoop of a mushroom cloud in the eye of a hurricane is worth the attempt
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:02 pm to East Coast Band
quote:where is chris?
I'm not sure I have heard of a more stupid idea in quite some time.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:03 pm to fr33manator
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That's what we need, nuclear hurricanes.
I'm sure a disaster B-movie has already been made about these.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:07 pm to slackster
Let me drink a 12 pack and eat a Chinese buffet.
All I gotta do is point my bare arse in the canes direction.
I got this.
All I gotta do is point my bare arse in the canes direction.
I got this.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:09 pm to Champagne
I don't think a nuclear bomb is a good idea. But cool air destroys these storms, right?
What about lots of bombs that release liquid nitrogen all over the storm?
Just a question, I have no idea if it would work
What about lots of bombs that release liquid nitrogen all over the storm?
Just a question, I have no idea if it would work
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:13 pm to Rekrul
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What about lots of bombs that release liquid nitrogen all over the storm?
Hot air vs cold air over the ocean. I'm thinking that's how Sharknado got started.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:17 pm to Rekrul
It would probably take more energy than we have ever used to create enough liquid N to even make a dent.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:19 pm to King
I don't watch TV outside of sports or news, and I can't sit through a movie so I'll take your word for it
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:25 pm to Champagne
I have noticed quite a few downvotes in this thread AND I ALSO NOTICE THAT NONE OF YOU CLOWNS HAVE suggested a better idea than mine.
What about one of them there Neutron Bombs?
at least I'm trying to think of an idea, DillWeeds
What about one of them there Neutron Bombs?
at least I'm trying to think of an idea, DillWeeds
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:26 pm to PrivatePublic
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It would probably take more energy than we have ever used to create enough liquid N to even make a dent.
shite, it'd be easier to cut off giant hunks of glacier and drag them in front of the path to cool the ocean.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:05 pm to Duke
Every rig to install a large pipe pumping cold deep water to the surface. Yeh. That will cool the gulf
Nope. We just fricked. Mother Nature scary
Nope. We just fricked. Mother Nature scary
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