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re: The Oregonian girl who was going to commit suicide because of her illness...
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:20 pm to Displaced
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:20 pm to Displaced
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you all are unreal. the donations were premised around the fact that she is 29 and dying of brain cancer.
I disagree. Take the promised suicide out of it and I don't think she gets the same response.
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whether she takes the drugs and ends her life of chooses to succomb to the disease, she is going to die soon.
What is "soon?" Soon was the day after tomorrow. Now it is "whenever." We are all going to die.
I think the entire situation is very sad. I don't fault a young person for making declarations in the face of impending death. I'm just making discussion about it. This is a message board.
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:21 pm to jmcs68
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But my point is that those who donated to her did so by choice.
Under the pretense that this girl was going to kill herself for a cause. No?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:21 pm to Topwater Trout
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I don't think the attention is the issue...conning people out of money and trips is
I think with the media coverage regarding this the donors knew what was what.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:21 pm to jmcs68
I don't blame anyone for donating to her.
I blame her for asking.
I blame her for asking.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:22 pm to pooponsaban
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Take the promised suicide out of it and I don't think she gets the same response.
People should ask for their money back?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:23 pm to redbaron
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People should ask for their money back?
No, she should dedicate the rest of her days to repaying them, or donating the exact amount + interest to a child with leukemia who is fighting to stay alive.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:24 pm to jmcs68
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But my point is that those who donated to her did so by choice.
Exactly. The Internet as a collective scares me how stupid society really is. If you want to die with dignity, do it. Don't announce it to the world via the media and follow it up with "Oh yeah, here's a bucket list of stuff I want to do before I die on November 1, 2014."
If you get donations because you are a cute 29-year old woman dying of brain cancer, that's one thing. In my opinion, she solicited the donations by announcing her intent with a bucket list.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:25 pm to pooponsaban
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Under the pretense that this girl was going to kill herself for a cause. No?
Did anything really change?
She's still not going to live a full life. This illness will kill her. And so what if she changed her mind? It's just as much a personal choice as deciding to kill herself to begin with.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:26 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I don't blame anyone for donating to her.
I do.
Well, blame isn't really the right word, but I sure don't feel sorry for them.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:26 pm to jmcs68
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It's just as much a personal choice as deciding to kill herself to begin with.
But now she's making personal choices with other peoples money.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:27 pm to jmcs68
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the donors knew what was what.
and that is?
Sorry it sucks for her but there are thousands of people that get terminal diseases...what makes her special? I am going with her saying she is killing herself.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:29 pm to LSUBoo
I may have a little sympathy for them. They donated money under false pretenses, which constitutes fraud.
1. She claimed she would kill herself on a certain date, she announced this to the world via numerous media outlets.
2. Potential donors decided that they believed in her right to do so, and by donating money to her cause then the dignified suicide agenda would gain further traction, and their money would go to something they truly believed in.
3. She decided not to kill herself.
4. That's fraud
Would you feel slighted if you gave money to United Way and they said we are going to stop building houses for poor people today?
1. She claimed she would kill herself on a certain date, she announced this to the world via numerous media outlets.
2. Potential donors decided that they believed in her right to do so, and by donating money to her cause then the dignified suicide agenda would gain further traction, and their money would go to something they truly believed in.
3. She decided not to kill herself.
4. That's fraud
Would you feel slighted if you gave money to United Way and they said we are going to stop building houses for poor people today?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:30 pm to Clyde Tipton
called it
It seems like a good idea until the day comes.
It seems like a good idea until the day comes.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:30 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I blame her for asking.
Well I agree with you there. Pretty classless.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:31 pm to jmcs68
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Did anything really change?
Well yeah.
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She's still not going to live a full life.
And we are? What is a full life?
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And so what if she changed her mind? It's just as much a personal choice as deciding to kill herself to begin with.
Because people gave her money based on the proclamation. This is not hard to understand.
I feel for her and the poor saps that might have given money they would have used for a vacation under the pretense that this girl was doing something valiant. At the end of the day she is just dying of cancer. Like millions of other...who don't get vacations.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:34 pm to pooponsaban
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She's still not going to live a full life.
29 is much fuller than 2 or 6 or 10 or 3 or 1.
And there are literally thousands of kids dying from cancer, who fricking fight every damn second and breath to live for one more second. Has she decided to give away her donation to them? No
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:34 pm to pooponsaban
She's a fraud. A fraud who happens to have Cancer. But a fraud nonetheless. And that's what she will be remembered as. Not a brave woman who drew attention to an issue that she believed in.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:35 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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And there are literally thousands of kids dying from cancer, who fricking fight every damn second and breath to live for one more second. Has she decided to give away her donation to them? No
somebody gets it
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:36 pm to Topwater Trout
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what makes her special?
Absolutely nothing.
But despite of her asking people still donated.
That's kinda like the bum off of College Dr.
People give him money left and right. They don't have a clue what's he spending it on. They do it because their heart was in the right place.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:36 pm to Clyde Tipton
Liberalism is the ideology of death and taxes. They love taxes, and they love death(abortion, euthanisia, etc.)
It's why this story blew up. Liberals love death
It's why this story blew up. Liberals love death
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