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The New Hubble Telescope

Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:15 pm
Posted by dovehunter
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:15 pm
For some of you astronomers out there. What do we hope to learn from these new high quality photos? I’m trying to figure out what exactly we hope to find.
Posted by DontThreadOnMe
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:17 pm to
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I’m trying to figure out what exactly we hope to find.


Uranus
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:18 pm to
This is not helping my suspicion that these threads are by edgy, attention-seeking, cynical nay-sayers to call the telescope by the wrong name and to ask a question that can easily be Googled and acting like no one can provide an answer, but here’s a summary from Wikipedia:

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The James Webb Space Telescope has four key goals: to search for light from the first stars and galaxies that formed in the universe after the Big Bang to study galaxy formation and evolution to understand star formation and planet formation to study planetary systems and the origins of life[165]
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:20 pm to
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The New Hubble Telescope
For some of you astronomers out there. What do we hope to learn from these new high quality photos? I’m trying to figure out what exactly we hope to find.


Proving flat earth. Where is Gaggle?
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by eddieray
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:22 pm to
I think the boys were expecting pics, hence the downvotes lol. Never change guys
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:31 pm to
A crusade AGAINST God
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:34 pm to
Hubble Telescope has a look back time of 13.4 billion years with the ultra deep field picture it took (stayed fixed on one particular spot for like a month I believe).

With the James Webb Space Telescope we expect to possibly see up to 13.55 billion years for galaxies and stars. So it puts the observable universe closer to the Big Bang.

This is because of the red shift of the light waves due to the universe expanding away from us. The light waves turn redder and redder the more they are stretched out due to the Doppler Effect and the JWST is designed to pick up infrared waves (which is why it’s coated in gold and has that enormous heat shield) so can see the red stretched out light waves that Hubble wouldn’t be able to pick up.

It can also see through dust clouds and things like that revealing objects that otherwise would have been hidden to us.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:36 pm to
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This is because of the red shift of the light waves due to the universe expanding away from us. The light waves turn redder and redder the more they are stretched out due to the Doppler Effect and the JWST is designed to pick up infrared waves (which is why it’s coated in gold and has that enormous heat shield) so can see the red stretched out light waves that Hubble wouldn’t be able to pick up.


What practical application does this information potentially contain?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:37 pm to
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What practical application does this information potentially contain?



I’m not really sure what you’re asking, why study things?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:38 pm to
For starters, it is the Spud Webb Space Telescope, not the Hubble.
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:39 pm to
Seems most folks are calling it the new or latest version of Hubble. These goals seem mighty high. The pictures are spectacular as were the Hubble pics. I was hoping someone could advance a practical goal. Maybe I just don’t get a practical benefit of this.

Can someone express something we have used from the initial pictures years ago?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:39 pm to
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I’m not really sure what you’re asking, why study things?


I’m asking what is the point of studying these wavelengths that were previously undetected by Hubble, such as those on the infrared spectrum
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:40 pm to
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I’m not really sure what you’re asking, why study things?


You’re dealing with Philistinism. Next to Luddism, they form the bedrock principles of anti-intellectualism.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:42 pm to
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You’re dealing with Philistinism. Next to Luddism, they form the bedrock principles of anti-intellectualism.


I just don’t think people are justifying the cost of JWST over what we had in place (Hubble)
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:44 pm to
I mean it helped to determine the age of the universe and the rate that it’s expanding, and that every (or almost every) universe has a giant black hole at its center. Whenever the topic of humans in space comes up one of the arguments that people inevitably bring up is astronauts are inspirational to kids, certainly the same can be said for images the Hubble sent back.

And humanity ultimately is better off for the knowledge gained from it is the best answer.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:44 pm to
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m asking what is the point of studying these wavelengths that were previously undetected by Hubble, such as those on the infrared spectrum


At its most basics, by being able to detect galaxies that are extremely red-shifted, we see the universe as it appeared just a few million years after the Big Bang. Knowing the early state of the universe gives us a better understanding of the cosmological model built upon General Relativity.

Theoretically, we could see where the model starts to break down...something we know will happen as it gets closer and closer to 13.7 billion years ago...and we should be able to understand the first rudiments of what we’ll need to do in order to update our model beyond the limits of General Relativity.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:46 pm to
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I’m asking what is the point of studying these wavelengths that were previously undetected by Hubble, such as those on the infrared spectrum
It's the only way to see galaxies that are further away.
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
855 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:46 pm to
its a conspiracy. Hubbell Telescope; Webb telescope

Webb Hubble. Consigliere to Bill and Hillary Clinton

who got the contracts to build the telescope?

it is so clear...
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