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Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:36 am to Moustache
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the disease exists (except fibromyalgia),
poor fibromyalgia
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but is way overblown and overdiagnosed.
they just always expand the definitions/concepts of these diseases. when somebody does one of those "look at the rise in autism" charts it's like "yeah look at the expansion of the concept of autism at the same time"
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:38 am to Moustache
Migraines.
Bipolar disorder when they are really substance abusers.
Fibromyalgia is diagnosed when nothing else can be diagnosed and the person is still having complaints.
Gluten allergy is not often diagnosed by a doctor, it's the person who decides they have a gluten problem. Just a fad and it will pass.
Bipolar disorder when they are really substance abusers.
Fibromyalgia is diagnosed when nothing else can be diagnosed and the person is still having complaints.
Gluten allergy is not often diagnosed by a doctor, it's the person who decides they have a gluten problem. Just a fad and it will pass.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:38 am to Moustache
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refused to talk to even his teachers until he grew out of it around 4th or 5th grade
I say this all the time...being shy is just a type of personality. Everyone is different, some like big crowds, some don't. Now, young kids who are quiet or shy are labeled depressed or anxious or anti-social and doped up.
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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when somebody does one of those "look at the rise in autism" charts it's like "yeah look at the expansion of the concept of autism at the same time"
Exactly. We've got people researching and trying to find a link for the increase in autism when the answer is pretty clear in the definition.
It kind of sucks for many of these diseases, because to truly have it is awful. Kids with severe autism, actual OCD patients, actual sleep apnea, and actual Anxiety disorder are people with a very limited quality of life.
However, when someone hears "so and so" has "insert condition here", many people think, "Eh, that's not so bad." I know I'm guilty of that because of how many people are overdiagnosed.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:41 am to HoustonChick86
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Do people actually walk into their doctor and say I saw this medicine on TV, I have this disease, I need it.
"The TV wanted to make sure I ask you Doc, is my heart healthy enough for sex?"
I know damn well than anyone old enough to need to ask this question doesn't give a frick if they're heart is healthy enough, they're just glad they are still getting laid.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:41 am to Moustache
Outstanding observations. What type of frame is your WebMD medical license framed in?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:42 am to Moustache
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Not an MD, but as I said...many of these conditions are real but way over-diagnosed.
The medical community is a business trying to make a buck just like ambulance chasers.
I do agree many are overdiagnosed.
A separate discussion, how many lawyers (%) are ambulance chasers?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:45 am to Moustache
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Low T
See Bush, ¡JEB!
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Fibromyalgia
Usually means the doctors don't know the real problem. I knew someone with that who eventually was diagnosed with the real problem (Cushing's).
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:46 am to Moustache
Just diagnosis magnifiers in general
Don't have a cold they have the flu (3 times a year)
Don't have. A sore throats they have strep without a test
Don't have a headache they have a migraine
Don't have a cold they have the flu (3 times a year)
Don't have. A sore throats they have strep without a test
Don't have a headache they have a migraine
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:46 am to Moustache
people are just kind of ignorant about these things. they hear "Autism" and think it's this 100% solid concept that hasn't changed in 50 years. what they don't get is that these psychological labels are kind of a random grouping of somewhat similar things and one day we decided "that's autism" or "that's depression" or "that's bipolar disorder"
over time, these groupings change. DSM 5 just was released and it won't be long before the next revision
another one that has changed a great deal is bipolar disorder. first, it used to label a person as a manic-depressive, but they softened the name for social acceptance. now it seems like the mania aspect of the syndrome is ignored and anytime you have a depressive disorder, you're "bipolar"
it doesn't make the actual issues any less real, but normal people don't often keep up with these things
over time, these groupings change. DSM 5 just was released and it won't be long before the next revision
another one that has changed a great deal is bipolar disorder. first, it used to label a person as a manic-depressive, but they softened the name for social acceptance. now it seems like the mania aspect of the syndrome is ignored and anytime you have a depressive disorder, you're "bipolar"
it doesn't make the actual issues any less real, but normal people don't often keep up with these things
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:47 am to Moustache
Stomach Flu
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:47 am to Moustache
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Got a pill popper here!
Hell no, all my drugs come from the street like God attended.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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most people don't even use "OCD" right
OCD = people who have to turn stuff/on off 50 times in a row or like repeat the same word 7 times or they'll die
OCPD = "anal retentive" that has to have everything in order. mark somers had OCPD
I would think of OCD as a matter of degree. Some people might see a stack of cans on the shelf and if one of them is turned 10 degrees it drives them bats. That's a mild case.
People who can't function at all and try to remove dust from the air are the ones who have a real problem.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:49 am to Porker Face
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What type of frame is your WebMD medical license framed in?
unless you're a research-based doctor in these specific fields or a phd in pyschology based around research, you can't play this card. this thread is about the creation of these diseases, an academic discussion. it's not about the training necessary to diagnose them nearly as much
i've gotten into this argument a ton on the flip side, when people say "psychology is bullshite". it's not bullshite, but people don't understand what these diagnoses actually are or how society developed the concepts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:50 am to Bestbank Tiger
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I would think of OCD as a matter of degree. Some people might see a stack of cans on the shelf and if one of them is turned 10 degrees it drives them bats. That's a mild case.
People who can't function at all and try to remove dust from the air are the ones who have a real problem.
you're not wrong
but
you're likely talking about OCPD there and not OCD after i explicitly defined the 2
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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eople are just kind of ignorant about these things.
Very true. Kind of like when somebody's kid vomits and they're like, "but he got his flu shot. shouldn't that stop stomach flu too?"
Mental disorders and the medical community's approach to it always intrigues me. I know this is a separate issue, but I often wonder why homosexuality and transgender tendencies were removed from the DSM with no evidence that it is not a mental disorder? Every other sexual attraction (furries, pedophilia, etc.) are listed as mental disorders. Overall, I believe we have a very poor understanding of mental health and the brain. The issues we see are real, but we have no clue how to properly treat them or what they full encompass.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:53 am to Moustache
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but I often wonder why homosexuality and transgender tendencies were removed from the DSM with no evidence that it is not a mental disorder?
because society changes and what we consider acceptable or normal changes
just like why they don't call it manic-depressive anymore
SEXUAL things are often taboo, under-researched due to opposing social norms, and kind of put off in a dark corner where we don't talk about them openly because they make people feel so icky
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:57 am to Moustache
Addiction
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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because society changes and what we consider acceptable or normal changes
just like why they don't call it manic-depressive anymore
SEXUAL things are often taboo, under-researched due to opposing social norms, and kind of put off in a dark corner where we don't talk about them openly because they make people feel so icky
True. I'm not sure I can call transgender/homosexual tendencies "normal" based on pure percentages, but it certainly is acceptable in society.
There may be an actual, physical reason for one to view themselves as homosexual or transgender if researched more, but my inclination is that it's in the psychological realm---just like pedophilia, other fetishes, necrophilia, etc. I mean, if there are actual, physical causes for same sex attraction couldn't there also be the same for other embarrassing fetishes or even pedophilia (as disgusting as it is)?
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