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re: The logic of cheaters

Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:11 am to
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17028 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Cheating is almost always the result of a failed relationship. So in a sense there is some shared blame



There is no excuse for cheating, so there is no shared blame.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17503 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:16 am to
quote:

There is no excuse for cheating, so there is no shared blame.


^This
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124314 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Your girl is going to cheat if she wants to cheat. There's no stopping her, but most men don't realize this heading into a relationship.


Yup. It's purely Machiavellian.

What will stop them from cheating, when it boils down to it, is Love or Fear.


Sometimes both. Unfortunately our modern society has undermined both of these, but especially the Fear, by rewarding women that break their vows. They leave and get money and freedom and daddy government steps in to take care of them.

Government has worked actively to deconstruct the family unit with the father as breadwinner and supplant and emasculate males.

Because without a strong father figure people will look elsewhere for something to fill that void.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17503 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Because without a strong father figure people will look elsewhere for something to fill that void.


Very well said, sir. Sort of how the ex was. The mom was a piece of work...and quite a few of her "boyfriends" had, well, that's a non-spoken family secret...
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 12:43 pm to
Wow, now there's a revelation.

Actually...it sounds a little racist.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Cheating is almost always the result of a failed relationship. So in a sense there is some shared blame
No, that's not how it works. Like you said, the cheater should have talked about the problems instead of cheating. That's why it's inexcusable and why there is NOT shared blame.

Often, the cheater is unable or unwilling to discuss the problems of the relationship, and they seek out what they feel is missing from their relationship without actually trying to make their relationship work and giving it a fair shot.

The problems in the relationship are the fault of both parties (usually), but cheating is a decision made by ONE person in the relationship, and so it's only their fault.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39147 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

There are people who cheat, and people who don't cheat. Not really any room in between imo. She can't resist that BBC though.


The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

People who cheat love to deflect, deny, and deceive.
what about the guys that are denied intimacy from their woman for years, due to hormones or straight craziness, and they just cant take it anymore?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6814 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

No, that's not how it works. Like you said, the cheater should have talked about the problems instead of cheating. That's why it's inexcusable and why there is NOT shared blame.


Like I said the cheater should have talked about the problems instead of cheating. I meant there is shared blame in the relationship failure. I should have worded that better.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10165 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:58 pm to
USUALLY, the cheater is somehow the "victim", so they cheat for self gratification and then become the victim for justification.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47507 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:06 pm to
My ex wife never did admit shite.

My GF did some Shady shite when we split this summer and owned it like a boss when I busted her. But to be fair I deserved it.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17503 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Often, the cheater is unable or unwilling to discuss the problems of the relationship, and they seek out what they feel is missing from their relationship without actually trying to make their relationship work and giving it a fair shot.


^This. Better yet, they "pretend" to be working on the marriage (maybe even going as far as saying the same to others, counseling, etc) and all the while screwing someone else. But, its never their fault. Never.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Cheating is almost always the result of a failed relationship
dont go too far out on a limb bro... I think I agree with you. If there is cheating, I think the relationship is failed.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71426 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:14 pm to
Have you ever told anyone they are wrong ever? Of course they deflect.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

don't see the problem of getting an escort while traveling out of town for work

I would never get into another 'relationship'. Just sex with strangers
yeah Mr Django, I doubt you tell your wife your sentiment.... And good bet you don't feel the same way if the wife was taking business trips and getting yards of new dick each time.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47507 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

, I doubt you tell your wife your sentiment.... And good bet you don't feel the same way if the wife was taking business trips and getting yards of new dick each time.


I'd be like Facetime me during it and make sure he gets good POV videos.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:28 pm to
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But to be fair I deserved it.
we usually do. I know I've deserved it.... But on the other hand, I'm NOT a cheater. And all the girls I've dated will tell you when it comes to me loving and giving all my love in one spot, I go all-in (speaking of poke her, hehe)

Females are quick to give out their number or whatever and initiate some type of emotional/brain type cheating and then have it all worked out and justified in their head.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11289 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:32 pm to
neither sides a winner when it gets to cheating/spying.

if you suspect something is going on either have a real conversation or bail. if you are to the point of spying, you should be gone already - regardless of what you would/would not find.

likewise if you are cheating you should own that you are done with what you have.

when you spy and find something - both sides are so far out the door that you shouldnt have much in the way or expectations for honest and respectful conversation at that point.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17503 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Females are quick to give out their number or whatever and initiate some type of emotional/brain type cheating and then have it all worked out and justified in their head.


Yep. My ex's affair started out as an emotional affair. I didn't know about it until the guy's wife called me one day and dropped the bomb...along with all the texts, pics, emails. ALL of them. Even the x-rated ones...
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15776 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:47 pm to
You try WAY too hard...
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