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re: The Hurricane Katrina "Certain Death; Catastrophic Damage" warning.

Posted on 8/28/16 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62771 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 9:11 pm to
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We had to threaten my FIL on Sat night saying we would call the levee police to force them to evacuate. They left the next morning.

The very tip of their roof was the only part of their house in Lakeview that wasn't underwater. They never recovered mentally

The one thing my FIL has is the ever worrying MIL. She's the only reason they ever evacuate. He would never leave the house. YOu'd figure he'd learn with the destruction he's endured over the years living on the coast.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2639 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 10:32 pm to
That's unbelievable
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103060 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 10:37 pm to
Yet some folks ignored and drank hurricanes instead. So sad.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 10:39 pm to
You're a fricking idiot
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 10:46 pm to
I rode through it in my home with roof flying away and oak trees falling through my walls and roof. Worse time was between the hours of 3am-6am when I could not see anything but could hear everything around me falling apart. Imagine standing blind folded behind a jet engine for 3 hours, best description I could provide.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 7:45 am to
Where were you at?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30543 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Yet some folks ignored and drank purple drank instead. So sad.

fixed
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30543 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 7:48 am to
quote:


Betsy would be a better comparison to Katrina than Camille as far as New Orleans is concerned. If you look at the old photos of New Orleans flooding after Betsy, they're identical to the ones of Katrina. Mississippi took the worst of Camille along with Washington & St. Tammany Parishes.


correct big difference between the two was very very little live video footage of post betsy NO.. .and much fewer people incapable of caring for themselves and their chirrens
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71393 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 7:50 am to
Sometimes even the OT surprises me.
Posted by Theboot32
Member since Jan 2016
2435 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 8:56 am to
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Radio Lab - 'Playing God'


wow, that is crazy to listen to

thanks for sharing
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:00 am to
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The gang "wars" that ensued in the BR area, and countless lives lost after it that were a direct result of so many being displaced will never be attributed to the storm. The "225s vs the 504s"....fun times for public safety in Baton Rouge for years after.


Oh for Christ's sake.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:15 am to
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And some dummies stayed behind



Don't start this stupid shite. Lots of people "stayed behind" in this past flood La too. And many went to shelters that later had to be evacuated. And many left and went to other people's houses that had to be rescued by boat later on.

You know why? Because sometimes natural disasters cause crazy things to happen that nobody is expecting due to nothing like it happening on that magnitude in their lifetimes.

Many people in Nola that stayed, had no cars. They had no money and no where to go. Many were old and couldn't even think about sitting in traffic for 14 hours and not even know where they would go.

Many places that flooded during Katrina had never ever had water and def. not at the levels that they saw.

So if it makes you feel better to shite on people, go ahead and pat yourself on the back.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30543 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:19 am to
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notiger1997


nobody predicted accurately the recent flooding

the flooding in NOLA was predicted since long before I was born.

many stayed behind with the means to get out - shelters were available all along the evac routes....and how many buses sat flooded in NOLA unused.... ray nagin...



by dummies I meant the people that had the means and refused.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 9:21 am
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4745 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:21 am to
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Oh for Christ's sake.


I was simply saying that there were more lives lost to this storm than what was lost in New Orleans. You don't have to like what I said, but I made more shooting and stabbing calls in the one year after that in Baton Rouge than any 5 year stretch since or before combined, and too many times you would go and hear folks screaming "225s" or "504s"...it is what it is. But don't fricking think for one minute that because you go to your office job and go home to your subdivision that this wasn't a problem because you didn't see it.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:57 am to
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I was simply saying that there were more lives lost to this storm than what was lost in New Orleans. You don't have to like what I said, but I made more shooting and stabbing calls in the one year after that in Baton Rouge than any 5 year stretch since or before combined, and too many times you would go and hear folks screaming "225s" or "504s"...it is what it is. But don't fricking think for one minute that because you go to your office job and go home to your subdivision that this wasn't a problem because you didn't see it.


An LSU criminologist actually studied the stats form 2006-2009. Take a look at what he found. I'm sure it was all the big, bad NOLA thugs causing the "225s" to act up. In fact, the "225s" didn't even exist prior to 8/29/05.


LINK


quote:

“I don’t accept the argument that these were these invaders from outside. No, no, no, no,” said LSU criminologist Ed Shihadeh. Key perpetrators from 2006 to 2009, when crime rose, were found to be longtime Baton Rouge residents, he said.




eta: To stay on track here, the 2 things that will always be ingrained in my memory are that fricking awful audio emergency broadcast and WWL TV signing off and showing up on the BR stations.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:02 am to
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. Key perpetrators from 2006 to 2009, when crime rose, were found to be longtime Baton Rouge residents, he said.


This. It appeared to be just an upward trend with criminals that were local.
I know in the early 90's with the drug wars and such, Baton Rouge crime was really bad. I think for a few years their won the murder capital of the country award.

Not discounting that there weren't some small increases in Baton Rouge due to Nola folks, but it wasn't nearly as common as people like to say.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

However, I agree that it was "right for the wrong reasons" as it effectively got the message across the Katrina was going to be both the most severe and the deadliest storm to hit the area in more than 35 years.


Correct, that warning scared my wife so bad we left the coast and went to my parents, we returned to a slab.

Every single item in that warning + hell visited the MS coast that night.

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30543 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I think for a few years their won the murder capital of the country award


wrong
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37086 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:26 am to
A lot of people forget that the year before, Ivan threatened LA before it turned and went into the AL/FL border. Many evacuations were called in LA for Ivan and the evacuation process was a cluster-bleep of the highest order. It forced the government to go back and re-do all the contraflow and evacuation plans in time for the 2005 hurricane season. As bad as the Katrina evac was for some people, if we had been using the 2004 plan, it would have been much worse.

We left on Saturday afternoon and went to Jackson. I woke up early on Sunday and saw both that it had reached Cat 5 status, and the size of the hurricane on the color satelite. Just the absolute textbook presentation of the storm, the way it looked, the perfect eye, and the fact that it took up a good 2/3rds of the gulf. At that point, I think it struck me that places on the coast were going to cease to exist in about 24 hours.

My grandfather, who died in 2004, used to always tell me that the scary thing about hurricanes in the gulf is that, they generally don't fall apart, and every direction they can go in, once they enter the gulf, pretty much will always result in a landfall.

I saw that message in the OP on Sunday afternoon and it just made me numb. Had the storm hit the predicted path at the time of the message as a 170mph storm, all of that would have become true.

Someone mentioned a vehicle being on top of a tree branch. When we finally got back into Chalmette in late September, after we checked on our house, we went and checked on the inlaws house. Across the street from their house was a scene I will never forget, and I have the pictures somewhere to prove it, a toyota camry or smiliar sized vehicle sitting on TOP of a roof. I remember thinking, wow, what power water has, and wow, that's a strong roof!
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:29 am to
Was my first semester at LSU. Packed up and went home to Pineville for the weekend. But Tuesday morning (prior to knowing the levees broke) we got back in the car and headed to Baton Rouge.

It seemed like NOLA had been spared when we left around 6 am. As we got to Opelousas we began tuning into the BR/NOLA radio stations.... And that's when we knew it was bad. We were hearing people calling in, talking about water coming up, the levees broke, etc. It was horrifying. By the time we got to my apartments and turned on the news, it became very clear that this storm just changed the lives of many, and absolutely changed New Orleans forever.

Soon thereafter I rec'd a call from my dad to "get your arse back home and bring all of your clothes back"..... Stayed home for the next week as my dad begged me to come back home to LSUA for just one semester. I'll never forget walking into Biology 1201, a class with 500 the week before Katrina, now overflowing with 1000+ displaced students. It was a crazy semester.

I realize my experience is nothing compared to those who actually lost property, family, etc, but it really shaped my opinion of south LA. I believe it's why I never left after graduation.

On a lighter note, the emotions that ran through me as I got to FINALLY play, for the very first time in my life, pregame in tiger stadium to a very emotional crowd still stick with me today. It was intense. Don't think I actually played one note as I tried to keep my composure. We lost that game even though we led UT 21-0 at halftime. I remember going back to my apartment and crying because it just seemed to represent so much more than just football that day.

Anyway, that's my story.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 10:34 am
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