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re: The Challenger exploded on this day 38 years ago...January 28, 1986.

Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:37 am to
Posted by Cajun Voltaire
Great White North
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:37 am to
I said a Bud light.

you feed the dog, I'll feed the fish
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:15 pm to
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This shite had been going on since the git go and presumed to be an acceptable risk.


A disaster almost happened in 1984 with STS-41-D (Discovery's maiden voyage), Mike Mullane (one of the crewmembers) notes it in his book Riding Rockets:

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But even as we scorched the prayer line with our pleas for flawless SSME function, both SRBs were betraying us. A primary O-ring at different joints in each tube had failed to seal as the motors had ignited. Tentacles of flame from the combustion area had wiggled between the segment facings. Like something alive and trapped, the gas had been wild to escape. It had reached the leak points and started to consume the O-ring rubber. The leak on the left-side SRB was bad enough for hot gas to actually get past the primary O-ring. Though we wouldn’t know it until after the Challenger disaster, we had just experienced the first case of what the Thiokol engineers would later define as “blow-by.” Hot gas had penetrated into the space between the primary and backup O-rings. Had our leak continued moments longer, the primary and backup O-rings would have been consumed and history would have recorded the Discovery disaster instead of Challenger. It would have been Zoo Crew’s names etched in an Arlington Cemetery monument. But the leak hadn’t continued. Inexplicably the primary O-rings had resealed.


NASA was lucky as hell it didn't happen earlier (and 41-D wasn't the last mission a blow-by occured).
Posted by TheTeaux
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:09 pm to
That is not ok. Seek help for your mental illness.
Posted by TheTeaux
Rouses on Airline Drive
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:28 pm to
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Watched on monitors with the rest of our team at Michoud. Having watched every launch, everyone knew instantly it was bad.


Y’all actually monitors that showed every launch. Did you work on the shuttle? That is cool!
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Did you work on the shuttle?


5 years of spraying foam insulation on the external tanks. there were monitors all over the facility. They showed every launch live. The minute the Challenger broke apart there was a lot of "oh frick!"s and "holy shite!"s.

That was January 28. By April 15 they cut the workforce nearly in half. No severance or anything. Just a meeting with the unemployment people. Back then it was $205 a week.


Posted by Slip Screen
Tomball, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:37 pm to
I was watching it in my middle school library with a bunch of other kids.
Posted by JustDooIt
Steeelwood
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:45 pm to
walked outside a store in Orlando...cold ,clear day..saw it was a "bad "flight...
Posted by Sput
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:01 pm to
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dukke v


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I was in my living room and watching it live. I fell to the floor.


And right before liftoff you said “this will be the most successful launch in the history of NASA”
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by TheTeaux
Rouses on Airline Drive
Member since Mar 2023
1210 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Why did it have to come from Utah?


The NASA needed to get as many states as possible involved in the Shuttle program. I believe they said that 49 of the 50 states were suppliers for this program.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164288 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:03 pm to
Such a bureaucratic failure. It seems so obvious. Maybe we shouldn't launch the space shuttle under a hard freeze... Can't listen to the engineers who know what they're talking about.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16479 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:38 pm to
This is a very good and relatively brief documentary on the launch.

Shows the icicles on the LC-39B pad structure, the puff of smoke from the failed O-ring @ T-0, the ensuing plume from the RH SRB field joint, and the eventual Challenger breakup from aeroloads, not an explosion. For you engineer types, very interesting stuff.

YT: Shuttle 51L: Challenger

Posted by Zander Kelley
Member since Jan 2024
346 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:46 pm to
Another NASA scam
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9340 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:50 pm to

Pepperridge Farms remembers
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164288 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:55 pm to
As mentioned by everyone in there where were yous, what made it so much more infamous was every school in the country was watching it since the first teacher was going into space.

The original idea was to send Big Bird into space before they realized that was pretty unattainable because there was no way to deal with those suit logistics. Sometimes I wonder what they would have done if they went through with the Big Bird idea and Big Bird "died" on Challenger.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29201 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:01 pm to
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The original idea was to send Big Bird into space before they realized that was pretty unattainable because there was no way to deal with those suit logistics. Sometimes I wonder what they would have done if they went through with the Big Bird idea and Big Bird "died" on Challenger.


I honestly don't think that was ever seriously considered. What was considered if this flight had been successful was the "Journalist In Space" program, and they had started initial selections before the disaster happened.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6586 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:08 pm to
I was eating lunch in Hatcher Cafeteria when I heard about it.
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1454 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:02 pm to
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Consensus is, unfortunately, that they survived until impact with the water. The vehicle compartment that they were in separated from the exploded portions. They emergency oxygen was activated by several of the astronauts and they were all found still strapped in when the vehicle compartment was found at the bottom of the ocean, dead from mostly blunt force trauma of impact. It was a long fall unfortunately. Was a defining event in my and millions of other’s young childhood.


They weren’t conscious though.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:34 pm to
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My teacher was pretty upset about it. I remember the school basically shut down. We weren't dismissed early or anything, but there wasn't much education that day. It was just watching it replay over and over again and talking about it.


I was in 2nd grade and the school was making a huge deal about it with the Christa McAuliffe situation. My teacher was really bummed out rather immediately afterwards and the weird sorrow vibes flowed down through the entire school. It was very odd and uncomfortable.
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