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re: The Challenger exploded on this day 38 years ago...January 28, 1986.

Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:15 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85061 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:15 am to
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It's a shame those astronauts, who represent the best of us


They shouldn’t have died, but I’m not sure why the represent the best of us.
Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2010
2092 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:27 am to
I had always thought an explosion of the fuel in one of the tanks was the cause but it was not:

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The cause of the disaster was the failure of the primary and secondary redundant O-ring seals in a joint in the shuttle's right solid rocket booster (SRB). The record-low temperatures on the morning of the launch had stiffened the rubber O-rings, reducing their ability to seal the joints. Shortly after liftoff, the seals were breached, and hot pressurized gas from within the SRB leaked through the joint and burned through the aft attachment strut connecting it to the external propellant tank (ET), then into the tank itself. The collapse of the ET's internal structures and the rotation of the SRB that followed threw the shuttle stack, traveling at a speed of Mach 1.92, into a direction which allowed aerodynamic forces to tear the orbiter apart. 
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9457 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:29 am to
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Didn't the cold temps also play into it?


Absolutely. They lost flexibility/elasticity in cold weather. I think the O-rings were designed to expand as the launch progressed. The cold prevent them from doing so.

Feynman clamped a small vise grip on a piece of O-ring and immersed in a pitcher of ice water at a hearing. As they were giving testimony, he removed the vise grip from the O-ring, which didn't expand back to its normal size. Feynman said something to the effect of "I think this is our problem."

Feynman wrote several books that include colorful anecdotes from his upbringing and career. The guy wasn't just a genius, he was a world class wit.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203144 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:34 am to
I was in my living room and watching it live. I fell to the floor. That was not supposed to happen.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:35 am to
Was in first grade, remember seeing it on TV at school.
Posted by Drank
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Member since Dec 2012
10581 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:40 am to
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hoping it was quick and as painless as possible for them


Consensus is, unfortunately, that they survived until impact with the water. The vehicle compartment that they were in separated from the exploded portions. They emergency oxygen was activated by several of the astronauts and they were all found still strapped in when the vehicle compartment was found at the bottom of the ocean, dead from mostly blunt force trauma of impact. It was a long fall unfortunately.
Was a defining event in my and millions of other’s young childhood.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89574 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:45 am to
Les Miles has lost control of the space program...
Posted by Kirby59
Rocket City
Member since Nov 2016
699 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 11:56 am to
I worked at the Huntsville Division of Morton Thiokol when this occurred. We built tactical rocket motors and had no involvement or information on the shuttle motors. When we saw it occur, we first said there is no way it could be related to the booster motors. Boy were we wrong.

Fast forward several months later. Marshal Space Flight Center came to us to test some sub scale motors with the new double clevis and tang design that would eventually be used for return to flight. As part of the testing, we would introduce flaws in the insulation joint to allow the hot exhaust gases to enter the o-ring groove. We would then measure the erosion cross section and evaluate the sealing capability. We did about 12 tests and MSFC was amazed at how cooperative we were and easy to work with compared to our brethren in Utah. They liked us so much they offered to fund us to rebuild an old mothballed test facility for dedicated testing.

Apparently the word got out to the Utah management that we were showing them up and they shut down all future testing.

I’m not sure how all of the politics worked, but we got Cal Wiggins as our plant manager after Challenger. He was heavily involved in the decision making there. We also got Jud Lovingood who retired from MSFC. I’m not sure what he did while he was with us. Just a place to be parked and probably keep his mouth shut.

The Huntsville Division was closed in the early nineties. It was a great place to work and I have many friends I still keep up with from there.

We have a cryptic joke saying that Cal was the only person to ever kill seven astronauts and a manufacturing facility of over 500 people.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2143 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:02 pm to
I also remember watching it live at school and wondering “if they were going to be okay.”
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76682 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:09 pm to
Why was Sprite the official soft drink of NASA?

Because they couldn't get 7-Up.
Posted by TheTeaux
Rouses on Airline Drive
Member since Mar 2023
1210 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:16 pm to
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was valet parking cars at Masson’s restaurant in New Orleans. Dude pulls up, gives me his keys and said, “the space shuttle just exploded.”

Loved Masson’s. Went there with my parents bunches of times.
Posted by LurkerTooLong
Lakeview, NOLA
Member since Aug 2016
1857 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:19 pm to
That was my fourth birthday. I didn’t really grasp the situation at the time.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47404 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:22 pm to
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To this day it remains unclear why NASA insisted on going forward with the launch despite the emphatic misgivings of multiple engineers.



This is what is unforgivable.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99155 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:23 pm to
Downvoters have no sense of humor.
Posted by TheTeaux
Rouses on Airline Drive
Member since Mar 2023
1210 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:23 pm to
You should remove this. Your fraternity brothers, who were as sick as they come, would not laugh at this. Malcolm and Earl would crap on your face for posting this!
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7950 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:27 pm to
Sitting at my desk in Prescott Hall waiting for the Journalism class to begin. Buckskin Bill Black walked in announcing the shuttle blew up.
Posted by TheTeaux
Rouses on Airline Drive
Member since Mar 2023
1210 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:32 pm to
Kirby,
Did you ever eat Fish and Chips in Eden Prairie Minnesota? Hope life is treating you well.
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
1842 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:35 pm to
Watched it live and in person from the east side of the VAB - knew instantly vehicle was gone - drove back to offsite office - entire workforce was in a stunned mostly silent mode for the rest of the day - and the next few weeks were a very somber, serious period.
Posted by TheTeaux
Rouses on Airline Drive
Member since Mar 2023
1210 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:38 pm to
Not funny. Please delete.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
3792 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Loved Masson’s. Went there with my parents bunches of times.


Yep, Albert Jr. knew his way around a kitchen.
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 1:19 pm
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