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re: The California water shortage..I mean water isn't a finite resource
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:02 am to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:02 am to Tigeralum2008
Yeah and if we ever get to the point where we really don't have enough water we lose the alfalfa.
Agriculture is very important to our state but not as important now as 50 and 75 years ago. I think that we have lots of leeway to shift resources if we ever needed to.
Agriculture is very important to our state but not as important now as 50 and 75 years ago. I think that we have lots of leeway to shift resources if we ever needed to.
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:04 am to Easy
Holy shite 80 replies 
I figured this thread would be on page 4 by now
I figured this thread would be on page 4 by now
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:04 am to Easy
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I'm just pointing out that you bringing up us not having enough to eat
I didn't mean YOU... I meant US. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It's not like y'all would only export your food and leave yourselves to starve.
I guess what I meant, and said in a very poor way, was that without using water for agriculture, crops, cows etc would necessarily have to suffer, or be moved elsewhere that isn't as ideal is the Imperial valley or wherever for year round usage. If that makes any sense at all.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:05 am to TygerTyger
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The best thing that could happen to Cali would be a massive failure of the San Andreas Fault.
Absolutely! Kill all them fricktard liberals dead! They don't deserve to be american! I can't believe they even have the same damn rights as me. How the hell did we let that happen?
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:05 am to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
quote:actually it is
Awesome story, I know
upvotePosted on 8/5/16 at 10:06 am to LSUfan20005
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Population is the easy part. Agriculture is the real issue.
Yeah, this seems like a smart crop to try and grow in an arid desert environment with water shortages...
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:07 am to RedlandsTiger
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'Freshwater makes up a very small fraction of all water on the planet
it's called rain dumbass
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:08 am to Tiger in NY
quote:I think cali uses more water on almonds than rice. Also, a lot of the water in rice fields trickles down and isn't really "used" by the rice.
Drive from Sacramento to San Fran, and you'd laugh your arse off. A state with no water and a crisis that is growing fricking RICE in flooded fields. I mean, holy hell, the stupidity. Just grow your almonds and other shite that doesn't require mass amounts of water.
They would be better off getting rid of all their cows than any of their crops.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:08 am to TygerTyger
Yet liberal states tend to be net contributors to the federal budget (we get back less than we put in) while conservative states are net users (they take more than they put in).
Wallet Hub
Wallet Hub
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:08 am to Easy
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We aren't even close to having an issue with running out of water.
Running out of water? You've got an ocean next to you. Running out of abundant water resources? Yes you do.
LINK
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California has run out of abundant water and will need to adapt to increasing water scarcity.
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NASA data reveals that total water storage in California has been in steady decline since at least 2002, when satellite-based monitoring began, although groundwater depletion has been going on since the early 20th century.
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The drought means that total water storage in California, which has been in decline since 2002, has been sapped by the need to use the resource for farming, Famiglietti said in the Los Angeles Times.
The use of groundwater for farming in the Central Valley has caused land to sink by one foot a year.
Sprinklers and other landscaping accounts for 70 per cent of urban water use, according to the Sacramento Bee.
Since 2011 the state of California has been losing 12 million acre-feet of water per year and the total amount of water in snow, rivers, groundwater and reservoirs was 34 million acre-feet below normal in 2014.
Famiglietti suggested immediate water-rationing measures, which are being considered in southern California, across the entire state.
Too many Californians live in environmentally unsustainable areas.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:08 am to Tigeralum2008
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One thing that struck out to me was a farmer growing alfalfa which is then sold to the middle east as camel feed.
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If you are a farmer in a drought stricken region, it can be seen as a dick move growing alfalfa when it isn't even being used in the USA.
That is true. Can they not grow alfalfa anywhere else? Or do they? I mean... like can they grow it in Arkansas or Tennessee wherever and export it, where we have plenty of water? I guess it's not profitable, or they would be doing it. Or hell, maybe they are and I don't know what I'm talking about, which is the case most of the time. Ask my wife. She'll tell you.
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:09 am to Bluefin
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Some of the most Republican people I've ever met are Californians from the areas outside of LA and the Bay Area. They're usually the first to bash their own state, as well.
2012 Presidential election by county. 40-45% of the state has voted for the GOP/Libertarian candidate in presidential elections since 2000.
The Sacramento Valley, San Joaquin Valley, and the Inland Empire have many areas that would feel like home to Livingston Parish residents.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:10 am to jbgleason
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Go log onto the USC board and get off ours. Take Tangerine with you too.
thanks a-hole spit my coffee out reading thisPosted on 8/5/16 at 10:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:quit fricking trying to grow grass you dumb fricks
Too many people live in an area that's not sustainable.
I'll bet the majority of them are the ones who preach sustainability.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:13 am to bigrob385series
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wouldn't the "melting polar ice caps" help with the water shortage? or was that some fabricated bullshite too?
bullshite or not, surely you cannot be serious. Considering they're surrounded by saltwater, no, no they would not make a difference one way or the other.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:13 am to Korkstand
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I think cali uses more water on almonds than rice. Also, a lot of the water in rice fields trickles down and isn't really "used" by the rice.
Where does the water trickle down to? The water in those rice fields just flows back to the ocean via the Sacramento river, and is not re-used or captured. It is also contaminated.
They may use more water in aggregate on Almonds, but I think that is because they produce a lot more. I don't think Almond tress are nearly as water intensive as rice and alfalfa.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:15 am to Bluefin
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The irony is many southern Californians would be the first to protest the construction of anything that could help their situation.
x1000
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:15 am to slackster
quote:do countries still lasso icebergs and drag them across the ocean?
wouldn't the "melting polar ice caps" help with the water
Seems like this happened a few times back in the 80s
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:16 am to Korkstand
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I think cali uses more water on almonds than rice. Also, a lot of the water in rice fields trickles down and isn't really "used" by the rice.
You are correct, plus livestock use up way more water than rice. The rice water will evaporate a good bit, but a vast majority of the flood water is re-used.
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:16 am to Tiger in NY
I would imagine lots of it seeps into the ground and eventually returns to the water table. Either that or it evaporates. It doesn't appear to be flowing into the Sacramento River. From what I've seen it doesn't flow at all.
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