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The 3-ladder system of social class in the U.S

Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:01 pm
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This is, one should note, an exposition of social class rather than income. Therefore, in many cases, precise income criteria cannot be defined, because there’s so much more involved. Class is more sociological in nature than wealth or income, and much harder to change.


The underclass (10%)

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he underclass are not just poor, because there are poor people on the Labor ladder and a few (usually transiently or voluntarily) on the Gentry ladder who are poor. In fact, most poor Americans are not members of the Underclass. People in the Underclass are generationally poor. Some have never held jobs. Some are third-generation jobless, even. Each of these ladders (Labor, Gentry, Elite) can be seen as an infrastructure based, in part, on social connections. There are some people who are not connected to any of these infrastructures, and they are the underclass.


The labor ladder (65%)
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This represents “blue-collar” work and is often associated with “working class”, but some people in this distinction earn solidly “middle-class” incomes over $100,000 per year. What defines the Labor ladder is that the work is seen as a commodity, and that there’s rarely a focus on long-term career management. People are assessed based on how hard they work because, in this world, the way to become richer is to work more (not necessarily more efficiently or “smarter”). The Labor ladder is organized almost completely based on income; the more you make (age-adjusted) the higher your position is, and the more likely it is that your work is respected.


The gentry ladder (23.5%)
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England had a landed gentry for a while. We have an educated one. Labor defines status based on the market value of one’s commodity work. The Gentry rebels against commoditization with a focus on qualities that might be, from an extensional perspective, irrelevant. They dislike conflict diamonds, like fair-trade coffee, and drive cultural trends. In the 1950s, they were all about suburbia. In 2012, they had the same enthusiasm for returning to the cities. They value themselves not based on their incomes but, much more so, on access to respected institutions: elite universities, leading technology companies, museums and artistic endeavors. Labor aspires to occupational success and organizational leadership, while the Gentry aspires to education and cultural leadership.
Before going further, it’s worth noting that the typical socioeconomic ordering would have each Gentry level two levels above the corresponding Labor level in social standing. Thus, G1 > G2 > (G3 ~= L1) > (G4 ~= L2) > L3 > L4.


The elite ladder (1.5%)
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This is an infrastructure “at the top of society”, but many of the people it includes are in many ways nowhere near the top. People complain about “the 1 percent”, but the reality is that most of that top 1.0% are nowhere near controlling positions within society.
Not all of the Elite are in the top 1% for income, but most will have the opportunity to be. The Elite includes everyone from billionaires to out-of-college investment banking analysts (who earn a middle-class income in one of the most expensive cities on the planet). What they have in common is that they are exerting themselves toward ownership. Labor provides the work and values effort and loyalty. The Gentry provides culture and it values education and creativity. The Elite owns things and values control and establishment.



thoughts? where do you fall?
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:02 pm to
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thoughts? where do you fall?


Why would you even ask this on the OT?
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:03 pm to
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thoughts? where do you fall?
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O-T Lounge
poor question
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:03 pm to
Which class is the one that ain't reading all that shite?

Put me in that one.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:03 pm to
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thoughts? where do you fall?

This is the OT....everyone will say the 1.5% elite ladder.
Posted by TulaneFan
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:03 pm to
Expect a lot of honesty in this thread
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:10 pm to
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Which class is the one that ain't reading all that shite?
underclass
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:10 pm to
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thoughts? where do you fall?

I'm a Master Mason.

Haven't you heard? We own the ladder.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:14 pm to
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The 3-ladder system of social class in the U.S


First, I counted four.
Second, shouldn't they be rungs?
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:19 pm to
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First, I counted four.

I suppose the lowest level could be considered the ground.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:25 pm to
You know what this thread needs?

Learn this, and you'll be the Elite in no time.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:26 pm to
3 ladder? I count four things listed
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:28 pm to
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3 ladder? I count four things listed

the underclass isn't a ladder.

the other three have several rungs or levels.
Posted by sealawyer
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:38 pm to
According to the actual classes within the ladder mentioned on the post I am somewhere between an E4, a "Striver" and an E3, an "Elite Servant."

Which is the social equivalent of a G2, or a G1, which, reading those, seems about right. I know people are going to blow this post off, but if you read the entire thing, it's fairly interesting.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 4:41 pm
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