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Tesla on Autopilot crashes into van

Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:44 am
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:44 am


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Within a week of Tesla releasing Autopilot to the masses, we started seeing some generally scary videos of people putting a little too much trust in the system. Well, we're continuing to see them, and the latest video has resulted in a proper collision

"Yes, I could have reacted sooner, but when the car slows down correctly 1,000 times, you trust it to do it the next time to. My bad."


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Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:46 am to
That's not a proper collision.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:48 am to
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The result was the Model S actually accelerating slightly into the van, causing a collision that looked low-speed. But according to Thomann, "the whole front of the car needs to be replaced, including a parking sensor and a steel beam."

Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:55 am to
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The result was the Model S actually accelerating slightly into the van, causing a collision that looked low-speed.


Looked like it was breaking when it hit the van

You left this part out to for some reason:

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Thomann blames the car, both for not spotting the van and for the automatic braking system failing to trigger. However, as YouTube commenter Shaimach points out, the Model S manual calls out this exact situation as something drivers need to be aware of:

Warning: Traffic-aware cruise control may not brake/decelerate for stationary vehicles, especially in situations when you are driving over 50 mph (80 km/h) and a vehicle you are following moves out of your driving path and a stationary vehicle or object is in front of you instead. Always pay attention to the road ahead and stay prepared to take immediate corrective action. Depending on TrafficAware Cruise Control to avoid a collision can result in serious injury or death.




Driver is completely at fault here.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:57 am
Posted by member12
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:56 am to
That could have been much worse. Looks like the car went into a panic stop and just couldn't quite come to a halt.

Then again, WTF was that van doing there?

Based on what I've seen from Google, General Motors, Mercedes Benz, and Tesla.....we aren't quite there yet with driver-less vehicles. I'm not even sure people would welcome it although I'd like to take advantage of it on longer highway jaunts.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:59 am to
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Then again, WTF was that van doing there?


doesn't matter.
Posted by Zephyrius
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:59 am to
Furthermore, autopilot wasn't actually engaged, just TACC. The driver had control of the steering

From the driver:

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Guys, this has nothing to do with autopilot. It was the TACC that failed and actually accelerated onto the standing van and the AEB did not brake at all. Also, the collision warning came way too late.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Driver is completely at fault here.


Y'all are such Tesla homos.

Feature isn't ready for the masses if wrecks can happen this easily.
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:07 pm to
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Feature isn't ready for the masses if wrecks can happen this easily.



Which feature? The one not designed for this exact situation as specifically warned by Tesla? It is traffic aware cruise control that is available on a lot more than just Tesla.

Go buy something off Amazon and relax
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:08 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:08 pm to
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The one not designed for this exact situation as specifically warned by Tesla?

THE ONE THAT DOESN'T WORK
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:09 pm to
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THE ONE THAT DOESN'T WORK



So traffic aware cruise control that is found on many luxury vehicles? The one that tesla specifically says doesn't work in this situation?

Cuz the driver had control of the wheel....

This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:10 pm to
OK Elon, calm down.
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:13 pm to
You're the one posting in all caps.

The car also warned the driver, who was in control of the vehicle and admittedly not paying attention, of a possible collision. It warned the driver of this exact situation as well.

It's admittedly a beta system too with less front collisions compared to other makers. So how is Tesla at fault here?
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:15 pm to
So does this mean in the future if someone rear ends me in a automated car, I can't get mad at them and punch them out? because its just the cars fault
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:18 pm to
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It's admittedly a beta system
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So how is Tesla at fault here?



Do you actually read what you are getting ready to post?
Posted by tke857
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:23 pm to
i mean thats a pretty straight up crash. most cars can detect straight on objects. i can understand maybe side swiping a vehicle on the side of the car but in front? yikes
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:31 pm to
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Do you actually read what you are getting ready to post?



Yes.

Did you actually read what I posted?
Posted by Breesy9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:33 pm to
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i mean thats a pretty straight up crash. most cars can detect straight on objects. i can understand maybe side swiping a vehicle on the side of the car but in front? yikes


The issue is that the other car doesn't change lanes so the vehicle is still locked on to it as the vehicle in front until it is too late.

Which is why Tesla warns owners of this situation. The guy had his hands on the wheels and should have taken over both as he needed to change lanes anyways. He wasn't paying attention
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:33 pm to
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Y'all are such Tesla homos. Feature isn't ready for the masses if wrecks can happen this easily.
Yes, it was a Tesla car in this video, but you think this is a Tesla specific issue? Why?

Unless you think only Teslas would do this and not other cars with the same feature?
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:34 pm
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