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Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:06 pm to Chicken
Didn't read the article. Anything about her putting the lotion in the basket?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:13 pm to KG6
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If you left a folder on your desk with your personal bank information, and I opened the folder and looked at it, legally I don't think you can get me in trouble for anything. Now if it was password protected, I'd think differently. I don't know any of this for sure, but that's my train of thought.
I think that's part of the problem. We try to equate phones with folders or Playboys when, in reality, those items are not the same.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:14 pm to pensacola
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Anything about her putting the lotion in the basket?
pretty sure she ate the lotion... AND the basket
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:15 pm to MorbidTheClown
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she has no business taking nude pics. and if she did, who really wants to see them?
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Posted by Chicken
In order to make a stance on this situation, I need to see the pic first. Can someone email it to me?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:15 pm to MorbidTheClown
Bet her nudes where only of face and tits, nothing else...
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:16 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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lol, my buddy did something like this one time. Girl passed out in the bar. she was a teacher. (and she had this coming to her, so I don't feel bad) He got her phone and found some nudes and sent them to everyone in her phone, including most of the faculty.
LOL
So you admit you hang out with dickheads. I guess that makes you guilty by association.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:16 pm to upgrayedd
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I think that's part of the problem. We try to equate phones with folders or Playboys when, in reality, those items are not the same.
How? For the sake of this argument, the point is that there is an item that contains information. That information can easily be accessed with the stroke of a finger (open folder, or open file). What's the difference between the two? One is newer technology, so it's a bigger deal?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:18 pm to tduecen
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Bet her nudes where only of face and tits, nothing else...
cause she couldn't fit anything else in the pic?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:22 pm to KG6
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How? For the sake of this argument, the point is that there is an item that contains information. That information can easily be accessed with the stroke of a finger (open folder, or open file). What's the difference between the two? One is newer technology, so it's a bigger deal?
Unless it was her background or the phone was already opened to it your argument is a stretch. Everything was innocent until the student dug through personal property and found it. What is the discernible difference between what he did and if he had pulled a teachers dress down? She was naked under her dress and thus should be fired. Had she had locks on her dress zipper this would be different.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:26 pm to AwesomeSauce
Well one is assault.....
But go back to the file on the desk. If the cover of the file had nothing on it, but the student opened and read/looked at the contents, they would not be charged with theft (distributing the contents is different). They would not be charged with breaking and entering. They merely accessed documents. Legally they did nothing wrong, but just looked. That's more of a comparison.
I agree what the kid did was wrong, but just playing for the case of the school district. They fired her because she brought highly inappropriate material that could easily be accessed by students.
But go back to the file on the desk. If the cover of the file had nothing on it, but the student opened and read/looked at the contents, they would not be charged with theft (distributing the contents is different). They would not be charged with breaking and entering. They merely accessed documents. Legally they did nothing wrong, but just looked. That's more of a comparison.
I agree what the kid did was wrong, but just playing for the case of the school district. They fired her because she brought highly inappropriate material that could easily be accessed by students.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:29 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Sure she may be able to sue the student. but the school? Fact remains she brought nude pics and maybe porn to school. Anyone who says she didn't is just being naive.
By this standard, everyone who brings a phone or computer or tablet to school is bringing nude pics and porn with them.
All these devices connect to the Internet which is 99.9% nude pics and porn.
So if the student stole her phone and downloaded porn, by your standard she is at fault. Ridiculous.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:34 pm to KG6
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Well one is assault.....
Had the student not committed theft the teacher would have never been fired.
Your argument sets a horrible precedent.
You go out to dinner, you leave your phone while you step to the restroom. 16 year old waitress picks up your phone and finds a pic. Should you not by your own precedent then be arrested and have to register as a sexual predator?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:36 pm to KG6
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If you left a folder on your desk with your personal bank information, and I opened the folder and looked at it, legally I don't think you can get me in trouble for anything. Now if it was password protected, I'd think differently. I don't know any of this for sure, but that's my train of thought.
What if the folder was on a desk at the pentagon and labeled "Top Secret?" If you were to look at it and then disseminate the information you'd be arrested and on the hook for 1) Espionage (looking at the information) and 2) Treason (disseminating the information to others)
However, as others have pointed out equating a phone to a folder is a ridiculous argument. Smartphones have several functionalities and the information on a phone should be that person's property.
To Tangerine specifically equating this to her bringing in a playboy magazine. Do you think you should be fired if you're working late one night and your S/O sends you a dirty pic in a text? Your boss could be reading some email on your phone and the text just comes through and BAM! your boss sees that you've got pornographic material while at work. Is that a fireable offense or just something that happens when a personal item is present in that environment?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:36 pm to NoNameTiger
I do think there might be some issue with having a device that has the ability to access questionable content (compared to a school computer which should block). However as I've said before, this concept is different. Having a browser is not the same as having the content. If having a browser and the ability to look at something was a legal basis, then we'd all get arrested for kiddy porn. But you have to have the content on your computer (or browser history) for it to actually count.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:38 pm to KG6
If you can't see the difference between a Playboy and someone's smartphone, I don't know what to tell you.
Your example of looking into a random folder on someone's desk vs looking into someone's smartphone isn't even in the same ballpark. Phones are much more than phones these days. They contain very personal information and that is very well known, unlike a random folder on a desk.
Your example of looking into a random folder on someone's desk vs looking into someone's smartphone isn't even in the same ballpark. Phones are much more than phones these days. They contain very personal information and that is very well known, unlike a random folder on a desk.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:38 pm to BRgetthenet
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Ewww dang She's big.
Quite the unfortunate progression on the zoomed out pic there...
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:45 pm to Darth_Vader
I was 100% on the teacher's side....until I saw the fat picture now I don't care
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:48 pm to KG6
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I do think there might be some issue with having a device that has the ability to access questionable content (compared to a school computer which should block). However as I've said before, this concept is different. Having a browser is not the same as having the content. If having a browser and the ability to look at something was a legal basis, then we'd all get arrested for kiddy porn. But you have to have the content on your computer (or browser history) for it to actually count.
But this teacher did not access the pic and provide it to the student.
The student accessed it during what by all accounts was a crime (theft). I see no reasonable reason to hold the teacher accountable for that.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:49 pm to KG6
quote:I think the kid should certainly face very harsh repurcussions, but I also completely agree with this. The analogy of a book of naked pics of her is well done.
I certainly think it's unfortunate and terrible for her. But she brought something to school with naked pics of her on it. Happened to be a phone that a kid could easily get into. What if she would have brought a book with naked pics of her in it. If someone would have found out she was carrying that around, she would have been fired I'm sure. Even if she kept it in her purse and it was personal, not intended for kids to have access.
You can't have something with naked pics of yourself at a school with minors, just can't do it.
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