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re: Teacher forced to resign after student steals her phone and shares nude pics
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:16 pm to KG6
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:16 pm to KG6
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I could still see being asked to resign. I had dick pics at work. It was an accident, but they shouldn't have been there. I'm not for it, but I can see a way a company can use it as a viable reason.
Yep. If someone had drugs at work for recreational purposes and they were kept under lock and key in the employers drawer and another employee managed to steal those drugs and management found out, you can bet employee who brought the drugs to work would be in trouble too and probably fired. The fact that the student took the phone without permission has no bearing on the fact that the teacher brought pornography that was easily accessed to school.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 6:18 pm
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:21 pm to AwesomeSauce
I don't think we are very far off as far as opinions on this. Mine just teeters a little more the other way. If I was an attorney, I think I would take the schools side before I'd take hers. I could argue both, but think the school has a better shot at winning.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:21 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:I feel like you and I have gone back and forth for probably 10 pages, and in the end, we agree more than we disagree.
If I accidentally had something on my jump drive that someone accessed by stealing my jump drive then knowingly distributed my personal property off my personal property? I would feel slightly culpable but if I had a union job and was told on the spot I had to resign, I would definitely sue.
You said you'd feel slightly culpable, and all along I've said she have some responsibility for the pics getting out. I'd say that's closer to agreement than disagreement, no? I never said she should be fired, mainly that she's not completely innocent in all of this.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:22 pm to KG6
quote:You're such a 1 upper, just too quick for me!
I don't think we are very far off as far as opinions on this
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:23 pm to marcnbc
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Keiland would be jelly of of those calves.
Those aren't calves, those are steers
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:46 pm to KG6
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KG6
Posted on 3/1/16 at 6:49 pm to shel311
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shel311
I could argue either way. I think I just would be on the other side beside the plantiff in this case. As stated before the civil precedent that could be set could very easily be transferred to a criminal preceding as justification by a halfway decent DA.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:04 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:You shoulda argued the other way and saved us a bunch of time today.
I could argue either way
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:08 pm to shel311
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shel311
I could say the same thing.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:11 pm to shel311
She could claim the nudes were personalized art. Someone being Nekkid isn't automatically porn. In short, her "art" was stolen.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:54 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I may be late to this German party, but I think the only way to clear the teachers name, is to post new nude photos of her. You know to clear to get it out on the open, so it won't be a big deal.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:07 pm to GetCocky11
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If you keep nudes on your phone, at least put a password on it.
Don't let your face or other identifiers (like tats) be visible. Too easy for it to fall into the wrong hands, and once that happens there's no limit to the number of unauthorized viewers.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:24 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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No. Just don't have images of nudes already on your phone when it is accessible to students
He should have kept his little baw paws off of it. Had he not taken someone else's property without permission there would be no issue. She has a reasonable expectation of privacy. What else is she not allowed to have in case a little electronics thug digs through her stuff?
Condoms? Tampons? Kleenex? Chapstick?
If you think what he did was OK then you are probably one that eats others lunches out of the office fridge. You will soon jack a car.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:35 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Drugs are illegal, period. Nude photos of yourself are not illegal. Especially when they are stored on your personal property. The phone was her property, she had a reasonable expectation of privacy, and the student accessed the photos by taking the teacher's property into his or her (not sure what gender the student was) possession without the teacher's permission, and then distributed the photos using the teacher's phone, again without the teacher's permission.
Yep. If someone had drugs at work for recreational purposes and they were kept under lock and key in the employers drawer and another employee managed to steal those drugs and management found out, you can bet employee who brought the drugs to work would be in trouble too and probably fired. The fact that the student took the phone without permission has no bearing on the fact that the teacher brought pornography that was easily accessed to school.
The teacher is not culpable at all. Yes, she was careless, but she's a victim here.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:52 pm to Hog on the Hill
Exactly right
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