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re: St. George Panel Cancelled due to objections over media coverage
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:42 am to Asgard Device
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:42 am to Asgard Device
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Landed a $717k no-bid state contract to do IT work within a month of pledging to run the campaign to incorporate St. George, which was a month after he incorporated the business in the first place. Nothing shady there.
I do a bit of state work and have for years and public work over the amount of $50k has to be advertised and bid public ally. Under 50 they are supposed to get three proposals if they can.
I'd be interested in you providing links to all of your accusations. I've seen bits and pieces but if you are going to comment you have to provide sources. Please do.
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:55 am to GFunk
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Kip Holden puts a BILLION DOLLAR TAX on the ballot. Twice.
But these people leading the St. George effort are the real danger!
Did either proposal pass?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:11 am to Pennymoney
The St. George folks are realizing BR is poor living location and they are giving up on the incorporation in favor of moving to other cities. Of course, taking their tax dollars with them.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 7:12 am
Posted on 3/25/14 at 8:05 am to Martini
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I'd be interested in you providing links to all of your accusations.
You don't need a link. My accusation is on page 1 of this thread.
From what I can tell, people's minds are already made up and they're fanboys of one political faction or another. Mostly it is based upon perception. Perhaps it is a Louisiana thing.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 8:12 am
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:51 am to fightin tigers
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I have no dog in this fight, but what is so shady here? Sounds like a businessman. Creating a business with a sole intent doesn't sound shady at all.
If the state awarded the no-bid how does this tie in with St. George?
It doesn't. And, it's telling that the opponents focus on this rather than a logical argument otherwise.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:52 am to Asgard Device
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From what I can tell, people's minds are already made up and they're fanboys of one political faction or another. Mostly it is based upon perception.
...says the guy whose argument is totally unrelated to the true issues in play...in a thread that is focusing on a cancelled meeting instead of the true issues in play.
Do you have a logical reason why St. George wouldn't be in a better position should they incorporate?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:34 am to Huck Finn
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:37 am to moneyg
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...says the guy whose argument is totally unrelated to the true issues in play..
Oh, it's completely related. You just don't like the information.
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Do you have a logical reason why St. George wouldn't be in a better position should they incorporate?
Likely will give us the same services but will cost more $$, while losing transparency in how and where the money goes since the general contractor will not be required to disclose who they subcontract to.
Currently our property in "St George" enjoys the lowest taxes in the region and has had the most infrastructure improvements in the region. Oh noes, we must add an extra layer of government!!
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:37 am to H.M. Murdock
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and they are giving up on the incorporation
Its actually that after the rest of this audit is published they'll realize they don't need to exhaust anymore efforts marketing this idea. Those dolts at the EBR school system are doing a fine job for them.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:41 am to moneyg
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...says the guy whose argument is totally unrelated to the true issues in play...in a thread that is focusing on a cancelled meeting instead of the true issues in play.
Didn't you read the comments on The Advocate after the audit was released? JOHN WHITE IS A LIAR lol
Nothing about graduating students who didn't have the credits, but that damn auditor sure is a liar lol
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:09 am to LSUWrangler
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Do you have a logical reason why St. George wouldn't be in a better position should they incorporate?
It just seems to me if a group can't get their shite together enough to show up to meetings or handle the media, then how are they going to run a city?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:29 am to SPEEDY
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Russian, are they afraid you are gonna show up ready to debate them?
Probably so. I'd tear them a new a-hole with facts and data that proves them to be liars. Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:29 am to MrCoolBeans
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It just seems to me if a group can't get their shite together enough to show up to meetings or handle the media, then how are they going to run a city?
You do realize that this group doesn't automatically get the job of running the city just because they are helping push it, right?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:40 am to Martini
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I'd be interested in you providing links to all of your accusations. I've seen bits and pieces but if you are going to comment you have to provide sources. Please do.
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Well, first of all, it was awarded on a no-bid basis. In other words, LED never issued a request for proposals (RFP) nor did LR3 ever submit a proposal despite having no obvious qualifications for creating an Internet database system.
When asked about the no-bid contract, LED responded by pointing out that contracts for social services may be awarded “without the necessity of competitive bidding or competitive negotiation,” provided the director of the Office of Contractual Review determines that certain conditions apply, one of which is that the total contract amount is less than $250,000 per 12-month period.
LATRAC, the state database for contracts, lists the amount of Contract no. 718453 as $717,202 over three years (Oct. 20, 2012 through Sept. 30, 2015) while the LED contract document breaks the contract into three amounts: $217,204 the first year and $249,999 in the second and third years.
LINK
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:47 am to MrCoolBeans
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It just seems to me if a group can't get their shite together enough to show up to meetings or handle the media, then how are they going to run a city?
meh. Those who run the city won't be the same ones who are leading the effort. And those in charge will be determined by St. George residents themselves. If I lived in St. George, this wouldn't scare me at all.
Is that the best you have?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:51 am to LSURussian
I don't get what this no-bid situation has to do with St George. I'm trying real hard to figure it out.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:51 am to Asgard Device
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Likely will give us the same services but will cost more $$, while losing transparency in how and where the money goes since the general contractor will not be required to disclose who they subcontract to.
Currently our property in "St George" enjoys the lowest taxes in the region and has had the most infrastructure improvements in the region.
And, St. George residents may still be in a better position since it would also give St. George residents control of many things they have no control over now...and would lay the basis for addressing the largest issue which is the school system.
In short, St. George residents should be able to do what they think is in the best interest of St. George.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:52 am to moneyg
quote:LINK? One of them has already said he would not rule out running for mayor of SG.
Those who run the city won't be the same ones who are leading the effort.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:54 am to moneyg
quote:That is a lie.
give St. George residents control of many things they have no control over now
SG residents are represented by 7 of the 12 city parish council members now.
Plus they vote on the mayor president, clerk of court, sheriff, assessor and all other parish offices.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:56 am to LSURussian
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That is a lie.
This is why you aren't taken seriously.
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