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Spinoff: Russia military ascendance. Caspian Fleet bombing Aleppo.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:53 pm
Currently, Russia is sending cruise missiles into Aleppo from the Caspian Sea almost 1000 miles over Iranian and Iraqi airspace. Now realize they have a significant naval presence in the Black Sea as well especially since taking over Crimea, and have even been sending warships to the fricking Mediterranean where they have been building up their naval base in Tartatus, Syria, most likely to bomb what not so long ago used to be called the "US-backed rebels" in Aleppo. They are well on their way to challenging us for control of the Middle East and the entire Eurasian landmass. Let that sink in. Thanks, Obama.
This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 12:05 am
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:57 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Make Istanbul Constantinople Again
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:10 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Wrong board. But are you of the impression that America has lost the ability to project power whenever and wherever we please?
Is your butthole really puckering over cruise missiles from a ship? Welcome to 1985, bro.
Is your butthole really puckering over cruise missiles from a ship? Welcome to 1985, bro.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:13 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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hey are well on their way to challenging us for control of the Middle East
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:14 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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They are well on their way to challenging us for control
you realize our navy shits on everything the earth has to offer. every country could team up against us in naval warfare and we would still be a 40pt favorite on the road
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:15 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Why does the US even oppose Assad? US took out Ghadaffi and look at Libya now, Same thing with Saddam
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:16 am to boosiebadazz
The point is that they are projecting their power and not giving a frick. Firing cruise missiles over Iranian and Iraqi airspace. Building up a naval base on the Mediterranean in Syria. Why? Turkey and Iran are already their allies. They are setting up the chess board to challenge US hegemony in the Middle East. Any idiot can see that.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:18 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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They are setting up the chess board to challenge US hegemony in the Middle East
This has been going on since World War II. You're acting like this transparent saber rattling is some event.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:20 am to SlowEasyConfident
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Why does the US even oppose Assad? US took out Ghadaffi and look at Libya now, Same thing with Saddam
well according to OP, we need to be even more entrenched in unnecessary conflict there because of this unprecedented show of force by Russia's decrepit navy
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:20 am to REG861
You're basically right, but since the fall of the USSR, the modern nation of Russia has never done the kinds of aggressive things it is doing now.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:20 am to LSUTigersVCURams
What do you think the US response should be?
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:21 am to LakeViewLSU
I would be fine if we gave them the Middle East, but let's quit wasting trillions and trillions of dollars there if that is in fact our strategy.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:23 am to SlowEasyConfident
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Why does the US even oppose Assad? US took out Ghadaffi and look at Libya now, Same thing with Saddam
Current US leaders are idiots. They have a hidden agenda we know nothing about.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:24 am to LSUTigersVCURams
To do what? Attack Saudi Arabia? To prop up Iran? Iran is simply an ally of convenience to Russia because they all rely on oil. They have a mutual enemy in the United Stares but they have no mutual historical or cultural commonality. Iraq and Syria are proxy wars that are simply the hegemonic powers stretching their war fighting capabilities to keep them sharp. And to be honest, outside of the global economic shock, I wouldn't mind if a squadron of Russian bombers lit up Riyadh. We're there because we have to ensure to flow of oil for the global economy, but it's long been past time Saudi Arabia and their exportation of Wahhabism got punched in the nose.
With the exploration and technology of American shale, it downgrades the importance of Middle East oil. Obviously can't cut the spigot off now, but the next 50 years will be won in Asia, not the Middle East.
With the exploration and technology of American shale, it downgrades the importance of Middle East oil. Obviously can't cut the spigot off now, but the next 50 years will be won in Asia, not the Middle East.
This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 12:29 am
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:28 am to LSUTigersVCURams
That's true (although in a short time frame), as some of Putin's actions in other areas are definitely worthy of concern, but the Middle East is, and will always be, a hornet's nest. Let them step into that bear trap, not us. The proxies are already set for a long time in that hellhole region. This won't change that.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:29 am to boosiebadazz
The endgame is to end the petrodollar and the Anglo-American bank/Saudi oil complex's control of the world economy, Russia is already integrating economically with China. Huge infrastructure projects linking them. Russia oil and nat gas and the Chinese yuan will displace the petrodollar if this keeps up.
And I should add, Western Europe has already proven they are more than happy to buy Russian nat gas for their heating and other needs. After Brexit, watch out.
And I should add, Western Europe has already proven they are more than happy to buy Russian nat gas for their heating and other needs. After Brexit, watch out.
This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 12:32 am
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:29 am to SlowEasyConfident
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Why does the US even oppose Assad? US took out Ghadaffi and look at Libya now, Same thing with Saddam
They didn't ask, "how high?" when we said, "jump!"
There are also issues with them not wanting to use the USD as a trading currency.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:35 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Petrodollar is a nice buzz word, but it ultimately ends up with the old adage that if I owe the bank $1 million then the bank owns me, but if I owe the bank $100 billion then I own the bank. China will put a toe in the water economically but they know we're in a mutually assured destruction scenario. At this point, it's about projecting power and staying on the cutting edge with our military.
Check who owns a ton of T-bills. Spoiler alert- it's the Chinese. You're right in that it is in both their mutual interest to team up against us, but they both have signifacent domestic issues to address before they can present a unified front against us. But again, that speaks more towards the pivot to Asia (and picking off allies before China becomes a true regional force) than wasting more blood and treasure to ensure the flow of oil from Bronze Age oligarchies.
Check who owns a ton of T-bills. Spoiler alert- it's the Chinese. You're right in that it is in both their mutual interest to team up against us, but they both have signifacent domestic issues to address before they can present a unified front against us. But again, that speaks more towards the pivot to Asia (and picking off allies before China becomes a true regional force) than wasting more blood and treasure to ensure the flow of oil from Bronze Age oligarchies.
This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 12:43 am
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:36 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Surely there's a Russia board by now right? A safe space where Putin Cucks can share e-bj's and bow down to mother Russia?
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:38 am to PhilipMarlowe
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Surely there's a Russia board by now right? A safe space where Putin Cucks can share e-bj's and bow down to mother Russia?
I've got to give props to the defender of my Church, my apologies.
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