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re: Spin-off: return of the mid-sized truck

Posted on 7/1/16 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

We made the jump from two new cars and three play vehicles to just three play vehicles.


Wtf is a play vehicle. Some of you try way too hard
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24479 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 12:07 pm to
This is still tGOAT small to mid-size truck ever made. My grandpa and dad both drove theirs for over 20 years and well over 200k miles and did nothing buy put tires and oil changes into it.


Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27469 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:30 pm to
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Wtf is a play vehicle. Some of you try way too hard



You're right. I'm bragging about my three vehicles from 2001 to 2003.

Play vehicle: a vehicle that is slightly impractical as a daily driver but fun to drive. A jeep, a 4runner, and an xterra.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9398 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:40 pm to
Is the Toyota Tacoma truly a "mid-sized" truck?

I get the visual appeal. It seems to me that they just appear bigger because of the wide fender molding and larger tires. The trucks are even jacked up higher to appear bigger so they have to add the mud flaps to close that gap between the ground and truck for the illusion that it's a bigger truck. Especially since it's marketed as such, with the "Prerunner" package to make a 2x4 truck look like a 4x4.

It's clearly obvious when I see a base model without all of the body side molding, large tires and mud flaps. Then compare that to the one that is commonly seen about. They're the same truck, it's just made to look bigger.

Base Tacoma:



Most commonly seen Prerunner 4x2 or 4x4 Tacoma:


O even compared the interior dimensions of the current Tacoma to a 2011 Ford Ranger. The Tacoma doesn't look to be that much larger than the retired compact truck on the inside.

Tacoma:
Head Room: 40.0"
Hip Room: 53.6"
Leg Room: 41.7"
Shoulder Room: 57.7"

Ranger:
Head Room: 39.2"
Hip Room: 52.7"
Leg Room: 42.4"
Shoulder Room: 54.5"

These dimensions are for a Tacoma Access Cab (extended cab) to a regular cab Ranger
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 2:41 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65818 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:40 pm to
My god Honda swung and missed (again) with their new ('17) Ridgeline.

It's just absolutely butt-ugly from every angle.

And this is from a multiple Honda & Acura owner.





Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81698 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:48 pm to
Looks 1000 times better than the original.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65818 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Looks 1000 times better than the original.
OK, appearance is subjective.

I'll admit it is less ugly.

This looks like a Honda Pilot got raped by a small 1999 Nissan pickup.


Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19364 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:58 pm to
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My god Honda swung and missed (again) with their new ('17) Ridgeline.


City Slicker Truck - Baw
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:03 pm to
Likes like an Aussie Ute. Except that those have GM V8s.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:05 pm to
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This would be considered a full size truck 20-30 years ago but full size trucks today are so big that the midsize today really can't be called that.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:08 pm to
Cost as much (sometimes more) than a ULL sized and get the same or worse fuel mileage with much less room and capability.

No thanks.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:19 pm to


This with the V8 was my dream truck in high school
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20503 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:24 pm to
The difference between a 4x4 and 4 door mid size truck and full size is less than $4,000 with everything else equal. You can't compare top of the line because the full size trucks have many more features. The 6 cylinder full size trucks are usually within 2-3 mpg of the mid size also. When you are talking 18-20 or 20-22 it's basically the same.

The mid size will never be much lower in cost on the foreseeable future because so many full size trucks are sold that the costs are lower. It's basically the same man hours to make both, it's all about the size of the parts and the increase in the amount made of full size drops the price to make them negligible. There's been multiple articles on this.

The main difference though again is full size 4 door trucks are a good fit for 4 adukts. If you are in any kind of business where you take coworkers, clients, etc. out then you don't want to be in a taco, canyon, etc. The back seats are like the back of a mid size car, simply slightly squished. People are willing to pay the $2-4000 more for that and it's hard to blame them.
Posted by CoachRobertson
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2014
364 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:29 pm to
Anyone that has Taco looking to get into new 2016 Taco, email me. We need more Taco inventory, demand is crazy.

Miss my 99 Taco, was a beast, wish I had not sold it, especially for how much I sold it for. Huge regret!
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38764 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:35 pm to
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that front grill is awful
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10752 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:37 pm to
If you cover up the "bed" with your thumb, you get the Honda Pilot.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38764 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:39 pm to
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Is the Toyota Tacoma truly a "mid-sized" truck?



My wife's Honda Accord has a wider interior space than my Tacoma.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:40 pm to
It's ugly as hell. But I do like some of the features the Ridgeline has.

Overall, if you are looking for a four door mid-size truck. You might as well go with the king.

Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4342 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:43 pm to
Sold my 06' pre-runner (205k miles) in Jan. Bought a 16' 4x4 off-road. Enjoying it.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69145 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:43 pm to
My tacoma can haul a fully loaded 16' double axle trailer with ease. Brake controller works great and transmission takes it like a champ. Brakes work well but I went with aftermarket drilled and slotted.

I've never put my old Ram through more. I doubt I will ever haul more than 6500 pounds.

The most I put on the truck so far was a seven series on a tow dolly.
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