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Special Snowflake get a lesson about the real world

Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:55 pm
https://www.askamanager.org/2016/06/i-was-fired-from-my-internship-for-writing-a-proposal-for-a-more-flexible-dress-code.html

Maybe they can go back to their safe space at their university?


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I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code



This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 6:58 pm
Posted by ellunchboxo
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:56 pm to
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Sorry, that page does not exist.
Posted by GeauxGoose
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:56 pm to
Link doesn't work
Posted by sleepytime
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:57 pm to
Link doesn't work
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:57 pm to
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Sorry, that page does not exist.
The page you were looking for couldn't be found. That sucks.

Sometimes this is a fluke and reloading the page will fix it.

If not, try browsing the archives or category listing in the sidebar. Or, try searching for the page you want in the search box.


You suck.
Posted by Duzz
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:58 pm to
Bogus story because the link does not work.
Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:58 pm to
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tylercsbn9

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:59 pm to
Great thread. You should post more often.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:59 pm to
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Member since Feb 2004

c'mon man

here's your working link LINK
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:59 pm to
Broken link, you should be fired too.

I hope you're dressed comfortably.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3581 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:59 pm to
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I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code by Alison Green on June 28, 2016 A reader writes: I was able to get a summer internship at a company that does work in the industry I want to work in after I graduate. Even though the division I was hired to work in doesn’t deal with clients or customers, there still was a very strict dress code. I felt the dress code was overly strict but I wasn’t going to say anything, until I noticed one of the workers always wore flat shoes that were made from a fabric other than leather, or running shoes, even though both of these things were contrary to the dress code. I spoke with my manager about being allowed some leeway under the dress code and was told this was not possible, despite the other person being allowed to do it. I soon found out that many of the other interns felt the same way, and the ones who asked their managers about it were told the same thing as me. We decided to write a proposal stating why we should be allowed someone leeway under the dress code. We accompanied the proposal with a petition, signed by all of the interns (except for one who declined to sign it) and gave it to our managers to consider. Our proposal requested that we also be allowed to wear running shoes and non leather flats, as well as sandals (not flip-flops though) and other non-dress shoes that would fit under a more business casual dress code. It was mostly about the footwear, but we also incorporated a request that we not have to wear suits and/or blazers in favor of a more casual, but still professional dress code. The next day, all of us who signed the petition were called into a meeting where we thought our proposal would be discussed. Instead, we were informed that due to our “unprofessional” behavior, we were being let go from our internships. We were told to hand in our ID badges and to gather our things and leave the property ASAP. We were shocked. The proposal was written professionally like examples I have learned about in school, and our arguments were thought out and well-reasoned. We weren’t even given a chance to discuss it. The worst part is that just before the meeting ended, one of the managers told us that the worker who was allowed to disobey the dress code was a former soldier who lost her leg and was therefore given permission to wear whatever kind of shoes she could walk in. You can’t even tell, and if we had known about this we would have factored it into our argument. I have never had a job before (I’ve always focused on school) and I was hoping to gain some experience before I graduate next year. I feel my dismissal was unfair and would like to ask them to reconsider but I’m not sure the best way to go about it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oooooohhhh. Firing the whole group of you was a pretty extreme reaction, but I can understand why they were highly annoyed. Y’all were pretty out of line. You were interns there — basically guests for the summer. Their rules are their rules. This is like being a houseguest and presenting your host with a signed petition (!) to change their rules about cleaning up after yourself. You just don’t have the standing to do that. To be clear, that doesn’t mean that you need to suck up any and every condition of an internship. You don’t. But this wasn’t something like asking you to do unsafe work or work unreasonable hours; this was asking you to abide by what sounds like a very common and reasonable professional dress code. They presumably have that dress code because, rightly or wrongly, they’ve determined that it’s in their best interest. Sometimes these sorts of dress codes make sense (like when you’re dealing with clients who expect a certain image). Other times they don’t. But you really, really don’t have standing as interns to push back on it in such an aggressive way. And beyond standing, you don’t have enough knowledge as interns to push back so aggressively — knowledge of their context, their clients, and their culture. What you could have done was to say, “Would you talk to us about the dress code and explain why it’s important? We’re sure we’ll run into this again in future jobs, but coming from the more casual environment of school, it’s not intuitive to us why so many businesses have formal dress codes. We’d appreciate getting a better understanding.” But instead, you assumed you knew better (despite being in a position where the whole point is that you don’t have experience and are there to learn) and then went about it in a pretty aggressive way. A petition is … well, it’s not something you typically see at work. It signals that you think that if you get enough signatures, your company will feel pressured to act, and that’s just not how this stuff works. A company is not going to change its dress code because its interns sign a petition. Honestly, if my summer interns banded together and this was what they decided to take on, I’d have some serious questions about their judgment and their priorities. I wouldn’t fire you for it … but I would not be impressed and we would be having a very stern conversation in which I explained the above. The fact that they did fire all of you for it makes me wonder if there were other issues too and this pushed them over the edge. Were you getting good feedback before this, or had you noticed your manager trying to rein you in on other things? If there were other issues, I can more easily understand them just throwing up their hands and being finished with the whole thing. In any case, I don’t think you can ask them to reconsider. What’s done is done. But it would be smart to write a letter to your manager explaining that you’ve learned from the situation and that you appreciate the opportunity they gave you and are sorry that you squandered it. They’re not likely to invite you back, but a note like that will probably soften them up a little and will mean that they don’t think so witheringly of you in the future.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:59 pm to
It keeps adding %20br/ when I use the link code.

It isn't there when pasted but somehow adds it when you click the link.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:00 pm to
Change thread title to: "Out of touch boomer can't figure out hyperlinks"
Posted by CharlieDay
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:01 pm to
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except for one who declined to sign it


Guess who got the job.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:01 pm to
What a shitty generation of people. Remember ten years ago when no young person was ever fired for doing something retarded? We need to go back to those days.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:02 pm to
Yeah, we're totally gonna read all of that
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:02 pm to
you should be fired for being an internet retard
Posted by Fat and Happy
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:03 pm to
I'm glad they were immediately told to leave.

Such a shame that being a grown up is so mean and hard sometimes.

Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18084 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:04 pm to
We accompanied the proposal with a petition, signed by all of the interns (except for one who declined to sign it)

That person is going places. Smart decision.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:07 pm to
I feel like whoever was in charge of hiring those interns should be fired as well. If you hired an entire group of interns and all but 1 thought it to be a good idea to sign a petition against their new employer because they don't like how they make them dress, then maybe you have terrible decision making skills when it comes to choosing good candidates.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:10 pm
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