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re: Southern Severe Weather Threat (Thursday/Friday)

Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:49 pm to
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You'll be singing a different tune when you have a tornado literally come w/in a mile of your house and 3 tornadoes are on the ground at the same time and you are still at work while your wife, daughter, and MIL are in the bathtub of the interior bathroom w/blankets and pillows.

Don't short change yourself, four were on the ground at once then.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:53 pm to
Decent severe weather chance tomorrow too. Nice baroclinic zone setting up and a lot of moisture moving north tonight. Gonna be a long couple of days.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:10 pm to
Considerable differences between the NAM and the HRRR with the 00z runs.

The NAM has ongoing rain/storms in the afternoon/evening. At 6PM:


HRRR at 6PM:


The messiness of the NAM would definitely be preferred, both to limit daytime heating and to maybe crowd out any cells that try to form. The NAM has continued it's cold bias with it under doing temps by 7-8 degrees. HRRR gets temps to near 80°, where NAM keeps them in the lower 70s.

The concern, though, is that the HRRR is now showing an uncapped environment ahead of the main line and maybe a bit more pre-frontal activity. That is not what we want to see.

HRRR PDS sounding from east of Shreveport at 6pm:


The cap is gone, the hodograph looks violent, and that's a whole lot of streamwise vorticity. Not ideal, at all.


This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:27 pm to
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Decent severe weather chance tomorrow too.

Yeah, I need Nadocast to rethink itself.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 9:31 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:38 pm to
It's going to be a long night Thursday if the squall line looks like that already in DFW.
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:46 pm to
How it looks for SE Louisiana tomorrow night
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Southern Severe Weather Threat (Thursday/Friday)


Oh I see y'all started a weather thread...


Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

You couldn’t pay me enough to live in the ArkLaMiss region.


I live here but I am paid from California.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54598 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:50 pm to
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How it looks for SE Louisiana tomorrow night

Maybe a few passing showers, if anything. Tomorrow's risk is farther north and east.
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2124 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:53 pm to
Thanks for everything you and everyone on the weather threads do to keep everyone updated
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:53 pm to
prob a nola bust
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54598 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:55 pm to
Might as well post the Day 2 outlook for the AL/MS/AR folks.







quote:

Day 2 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1129 AM CST Tue Feb 28 2023

Valid 011200Z - 021200Z

...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM THE ARKLATEX ACROSS THE MID-SOUTH INTO MIDDLE TN...

...SUMMARY... Severe thunderstorms will be possible on Wednesday from northeast Texas through the Mid-South and into Middle Tennessee, with a threat of hail, damaging wind, and a couple of tornadoes.

...Synopsis... The strong shortwave trough currently just off the Pacific Northwest coast is expected to drop south through northern CA today, before then pivoting more eastward/southeastward as it moves from central CA through the southern Great Basin/Lower CO River Valley and AZ. By early Thursday, this shortwave, which will likely have matured into a closed low, is expected to be centered over the AZ/NM border. Enhanced southwesterly mid-level flow will precede this system, extending from the southern High Plains across much of the eastern CONUS. Most guidance indicates a low-amplitude shortwave trough will move through this southwesterly flow aloft, progressing from the southern High Plains through the southern and central Plains Wednesday.

At the surface, a low will likely be centered over southwest MO. A cold front will extend southwestward from this low through eastern OK and north-central TX. This low is expected to progress northeastward through the OH Valley during the day, while the cold front remains largely stationary. This boundary will eventually begin returning northward Wednesday evening through Thursday morning as surface cyclogenesis occurs over the southern High Plains and the low-level flow increases across the southern Plains.

...North TX through the Arklatex into the Mid-South/TN Valley... Despite a notable mid-level dry layer, convergence along the front coupled with modest large-scale ascent attendant to the lead shortwave may result in isolated thunderstorms Wednesday morning over north-central TX. Primary threat with this activity would be hail. Timing and coverage varies within the guidance, precluding higher probabilities with this outlook.

Farther east (from northeast TX/Arklatex into the Mid-South), thunderstorms are expected to develop in the vicinity of the front Wednesday afternoon into Wednesday evening, supported by lift from persistent low-level convergence and the subtle shortwave trough. Storm initiation appears most probable in the Arklatex with storms then potentially maturing across southern AR and far northwest MS. Long hodographs suggest splitting supercells capable of all severe hazards are possible with the mature warm sector storms, including very large hail and tornadoes. Modest ascent results in uncertainty regarding storm coverage within the warm sector.

Greater storm coverage is anticipated north of the front, where hail will still be possible, particularly with early development. A trend towards a more linear mode, with one or more bowing segments, is expected over time along and north the front. Potential exists for these more linear storms to encounter less low-level stability farther with eastern extent, increasing the potential for damaging wind gusts from northern MS into Middle TN.

..Mosier.. 02/28/2023
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 9:58 pm
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:57 pm to
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Anytime you clowns see a grey cloud you start screaming end of the world thunderstorms. Come on people they are just thunderstorms.


When I was younger they seemed to be less severe and not as often....global warming??
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25075 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:00 pm to
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Don't short change yourself, four were on the ground at once then.

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6530 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:01 pm to
I now understand how people view my posts about airline flights.

I was supposed to drive to north Dallas Thursday from Houston, arriving around 1600-1700, may re-think.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 10:07 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19619 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:04 pm to
Where was that at and what size tornado?

Those are new modern homes and they are destroyed.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54598 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:35 pm to
Nice one, Bobby. I haven't seen that yet.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42700 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:32 am to
SPC has introduced a moderate risk for Thursday:

Risk through 6am CST Friday:



Tornado probabilities:



Severe wind probabilities:



Risk after 6am Friday:

This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 5:54 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42700 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:33 am to
Also worth noting there is a slight risk across parts of the southeast for today (Wednesday):


Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164315 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:31 am to
Pretty amazing how cams were picking up on these isolated hailers moving through DFW as far back as 24+ hours ago. Pinpointed their location.
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