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Something to consider before sending nano-probes speeding off into space

Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted by PatDyesPants
Loachapoka, AL
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:23 pm
One idea is to send nano-probes at some incredible speed so that they can reach Proxima Centauri in a reasonable amount of time (20 years travel time IIRC). One possible idea is to use a laser to accelerate these probes at 20% the speed of light. In theory.

The problem the only way these probes will ever slow down from that speed is if they hit something. Even at that very small mass those probes would be delivering an amount of energy equivalent to a small atomic bomb due to their speed.

So, if we send out a string of probes to transmit back data, and they don't get stopped and then all hit a planet beyond somewhere, we will be effectively bombing that planet from afar.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:25 pm to
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we will be effectively bombing that planet from afar


AMERICA


frick YEAH
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
3747 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:25 pm to
How much pot have you smoked today?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65723 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:28 pm to
They should have been watching out for bombs.

We are watching for incoming interstellar shite.

Their fault, as I see it.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9372 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:28 pm to
What if unexplained sudden deaths on earth are caused by nano probes sent from Proxima Centauri?
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:30 pm to
if the planet has an atmosphere I don't think these tiny probes would make it through without burning up.
If it doesn't have an atmosphere there would be no life to negatively affect.

It would be decades before the probes even traveled far enough to have the potential to reach another solar system, with no gaurantee it would be aimed directly at one. Plus the chances of hitting something as small as a planet as spread out and vast as the galaxy is would be pretty low IMO.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:30 pm to
Wouldn't they burn up in the atmosphere? Assuming there's an atmosphere?
Posted by PatDyesPants
Loachapoka, AL
Member since Jan 2016
3403 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:33 pm to
Possibly, however that energy will go somewhere in the form of heat at least.

Heat energy equivalent of 50 atomic bombs added to an atmosphere basically all at once?
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:38 pm to
It's my opinion that the odds of hitting another system in our galaxy are low, and hitting an actual planet in that system is well below a fraction of 1%.

Similar to how our crafts go through the asteroid belt easily without even seeing an asteroid

-The mass of our entire solar system is 1.0014 solar masses. So almost all of the mass is located in the sun.
-the diameter of the sun is about 900,000 miles
-from earth to the sun is 93 million miles, which equals 1 AU.
-pluto's average distance from the sun is 40 AU.
-Pluto is 5 light hours from the sun.
-Alpha Centauri is 4.25 light years from the sun.
-you could fit over 7,400 solar systems between here and Alpha Cebtauri (I only included sun to Pluto, not Ort cloud, since we are talking about hitting a habitable planet)

so you could pretty much fit 100 suns between the sun and earth, and 4,000 suns between the earth and Pluto. how many plutos you could fit between Pluto and the sun is mind boggling.
So the odds of randomly passing through our solar system and hitting a planet is very very small, the odds of even hitting a solar system passing through The Galaxy is very small, combined with odds of life on a random planet... I think we are fine

^mass is pretty spread out across the galaxy
: odds it hits nothing>>>odds it hits a star/sun>>>>>>>>>odds it hits a planet
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 5:42 pm
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:55 pm to
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How much pot have you smoked today?


Not enough to realize anywhere near how big space is.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:57 pm to
I heard one was sent to uranus
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:08 pm to
If they pass close enough to a star or even a large planet, the gravitational pull might be strong enough to slow it down.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:11 pm to
Far out, man
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:10 pm to
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How much pot have you smoked today?


He should smoke more and watch this

If the sun was a grain of sand at midfield in Tiger Stadium, Pluto is on the 47 yard line, and Alpha Centauri is somewhere in Gonzales

Another fun fact:
as spread out as the solar system is, you could fit all 7 other planets and Pluto inbetween the Earth and the Moon
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:18 pm to
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The problem the only way these probes will ever slow down from that speed is if they hit something


Those planets should have not been in the left lane.

Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:35 pm to
Took the words right out of my mouth.

Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41202 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:41 pm to
Wouldn't most planets's atmospheric pressure crush the probe before impact? I know NASA has used both Saturn and Jupiter's atmospheres to dispose of crap we were done using.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2988 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:41 pm to
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Possibly, however that energy will go somewhere in the form of heat at least.

Heat energy equivalent of 50 atomic bombs added to an atmosphere basically all at once?




I don't think you quite have a grasp of the physics involved here.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20405 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:33 pm to
Space is pretty fricking big and even if a section of it looks crowded, there is still a lot of space between individual objects. The odds of a random collision are, shall we say......astronomical.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:43 pm to
When it comes to space, Issac Newton is the most deadly mother F-er around
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