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re: Sleep Apnea...Have anyone of you had this?

Posted on 5/7/21 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19468 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 3:32 pm to
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Damn right it goes back to diet, the diet that is putting an extra 20-39 lbs of fatty tissue pushing on the air ways.


That’s not the problem

These patients airways are 50% or even 75% smaller than they should be.

If you eating a western diet, you’re eating very soft food. Your jaw doesn’t undergo sufficient stress during childhood to reach a normal size. There are also issues with tongue posture.

This is why we have malocclusions, but it’s also why we have sleep apnea.

If you treat the structural issue, weight loss becomes much much easier. It happens automatically.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41004 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 3:41 pm to
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going for 305 in October to 197 this morning has made all the difference in the world.


Damn bro, that’s great
Posted by tigerstripes
Loranger, LA
Member since Aug 2006
800 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:01 pm to
it works. I resisted but I am a believer.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9506 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:33 am to
No, it was an APAP. Automatic Positive Airway Pressure. A CPAP is continuous pressure at the same force. APAP is more pressure when you breathe in and less when you breathe out. It does other things like detect how much pressure you need at different levels of your sleep cycle of sleep, thus APAP.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 6:38 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:45 am to
An apap is just a CPAP that detects events and adjusts pressures accordingly. Your doctor prescribes a pressure range of say 6-10. Then your pressure adjusts in that range depending on the events but it doesn’t change the pressure when you breathe in and out.

Posted by KISS ARMY
Da parish brah
Member since Jan 2015
427 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 7:01 am to
I have a ResMed machine. Been using for about 2 months. Wake up feeling great and not as tired during the day.

I use the pillow mask which allows you to move around. Still can't really sleep on your side or face as the mask will slide.

On my insurance I paid around 500$ for machine and sleep study. Study was at home. I go to SLENT in Mandeville
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 7:44 am to
The Respironics dream wear pillow mask would allow you to sleep on your side.

Posted by noon0707
Saint Amant
Member since Sep 2010
216 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:48 am to
I’d like to look in to doing this at home. You in the BR area?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78564 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:51 am to
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have a ResMed machine. Been using for about 2 months. Wake up feeling great and not as tired during the day.

Yep it's a great little machine and easy to travel with. The biggest problem is the distilled water and I usually just throw a water bottle that will seal in my bag to use.

You get used to waking up if you need to roll over and adjust the hose. You sleep so well that is not even a big deal to wake up for a second.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17254 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:53 am to
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the machine
been on it for eight years. The wife will not let me go camping with out it.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
16005 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:07 am to
Yes. The machine has saved my life. My apnea was very severe.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
6452 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:12 am to
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You're a big boy, huh?


quote:

Giantkiller


A worthy opponent for you
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11472 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:52 am to
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Have anyone of you had this? Did you get the machine? If so, how big of a difference did it make in your sleep?

I think i have this. I am going to get my doctor to refer me and have a sleep study done.

ETA: I'm 6'4" 215 lbs
I'm a respiratory therapist and deal with sleep apnea patients on a daily basis. Here's some things to consider:

Sleep apnea, untreated, can be very deadly to people.

Untreated, your heart rate will go thru wild swings, multiple times thru the night.

Depending on how severe your case is, will determine how much better you will feel once treated.

Untreated, it will definitely get worse over time.

Losing weight helps if weight gain is the cause, unfortunately, that is very difficult due to the fact that untreated sleep apnea causes your metabolism to decrease.

I have seen guys who look like they could run marathons with moderate cases of sleep apnea. The anatomy of their neck/throat was the cause.

A very large amount of people see a huge difference in how they feel, immediately after using CPAP/Bipap for a very short period of time.

Google "Epworth Sleepiness Scale". Answer the questions and you'll get a very good idea if you have sleep apnea. You doctor will assuredly ask you all of these questions during the first consult.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11472 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:03 am to
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I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea in 2011 and have been on machines for the better part of 10 years. I found it very difficult to adapt to a CPAP and after several years of stress I switched to an AUTO PAP OR APAP which I found very beneficial for me. If you are diagnosed with sleep apnea I would suggest you inquired about getting an AUTO PAP. Following is a definitional explanation of the difference between a CPAP and an AUTOPAP----"While CPAP delivers one continuous pressure level of air, APAP automatically adjusts to meet each specific person's breathing needs, which often change throughout the night as we move in and out of different stages of sleep."


There are huge advantages of Autopap over CPAP.

When you go get a study done, and they determine that you need 10 cmH20 of pressure to keep your airway patent, that result was just for that night. The techincian that does the study will be constantly monitoring you and changing the pressure as need be, thru the night to find the pressure that resolves your apnea 90-95% of the time.

An autopap basically does the same thing. With an autopap, you are almost ALWAYS getting the correct pressure. CPAP, not so much. As you age, gain weight or lose weight your pressure needs will also change. On an Auto, this will not be a factor.

Sidenote: A few years ago I had a sleep doc tell me, to my face, that he was going to stop prescribing autos as much. He said he lost a lot of money by not restudying the same patients every few years and they had no need to schedule follow-ups for their sleep apnea. Pretty shitty.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5987 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:03 am to



It is great. support reinforced by my cardiologist. Heart rhythm before and after showed great improvement
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11472 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:07 am to
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I did a home test which showed very mild OSA. I went get scanned for an oral appliance this morning. It was free so I figured I’d try it out.

Be careful with this approach. Some insurances will pay for an oral appliance or a CPAP, but not both. I have seen several people get screwed when they opted for the oral appliance, it didn't work, and they had to come out of pocket 100% for a CPAP.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78564 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:07 am to
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He said he lost a lot of money by not restudying the same patients every few years and they had no need to schedule follow-ups for their sleep apnea. Pretty shitty


First do no harm...
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11472 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:12 am to
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First do no harm...
Back when I was young, I thought doctors and preachers were two professions that could be trusted over all others. Funny how getting out into the real world opens your eyes to just how wrong you were.
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3051 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:16 am to
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diabetes


Not the topic here stay on point.
Posted by mingoswamp
St. Louis
Member since Aug 2017
968 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:49 am to
My pulmonologist told me not everyone that snores has SA, but absolutely everyone that has SA snores.
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