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Shrimping Costs questions

Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:28 pm
Posted by jtran1988
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:28 pm
Hey fellas, can anyone provide insight on the shrimping business?

My dad lives in the gulf coast of Mississippi. Shrimping is his livelihood— doing this for over 30 years. He’s been telling me he can’t profit off of shrimp because diesel fuel is $5 per gallon and he can only sell shrimp for $1 which obviously doesn’t net him any profit. Is someone screwing him over or is this how it is now? I always felt like someone was undercutting him but I don’t know the business like that.

Thanks I’m advance guys.

Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

diesel fuel is $5 per gallon and he can only sell shrimp for $1 which obviously doesn’t net him any profit.


Wut
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:30 pm to
yes
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

he can’t profit off of shrimp because diesel fuel is $5 per gallon and he can only sell shrimp for $1 which obviously doesn’t net him any profit.


Well, how many gallons of fuel are needed vs. how many pounds of shrimp he can sell?

The scenario you presented is not as simple as $5 COGS vs $1 revenue.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

diesel fuel is $5 per gallon and he can only sell shrimp for $1


He’s not a very good shrimper if he uses a gallon of fuel to catch a pound of shrimp.
Posted by EthicalHedonist
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:32 pm to
I'd ask your dad. He has 30 years of experience in the shrimping business.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:36 pm to
Also...

You need to factor in his license, boat maintenance and marina costs, his salary, the salary of any help, equipment costs, etc.

We're dealing with a lot of shite here.

This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

I always felt like someone was undercutting him

Yes, the Chinese, with the help of the U.S. government.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

diesel fuel is $5 per gallon


not its not

quote:

he can only sell shrimp for $1


Wrong again





Off road diesel is around $4 a gallon and shrimp off the boat is $2.50/lb+ depending on the size

You can get more at the dock
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

I'd ask your dad. He has 30 years of experience in the shrimping business.




My ex FIL owned a bar on at the corner of 188/193 between Bayou La Batre and Dauphin Island. I met plenty of shrimpers. You'd be surprised how many of them don't understand the business side.






This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

My dad lives in the gulf coast of Mississippi. Shrimping is his livelihood— doing this for over 30 years.

quote:

jtran1988

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tran
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Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

He’s been telling me he can’t profit off of shrimp because diesel fuel is $5 per gallon and he can only sell shrimp for $1 which obviously doesn’t net him any profit.
quote:

net him any profit
Posted by reverendotis
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:46 pm to
A couple of points -

Diesel is high right now but not $5/gallon for off road fuel purchased in bulk which is the only way a business like his should be buying it.

If he is trawling year round, he's in Fed waters and because his boat docks in MS doesn't mean he is shrimping there. How far out and where (east/west) is he going?

Every commercial fisherman I've ever met talks to other commercial fishermen. They don't always speak truthfully but considering that, what is he hearing from his peers - price, expenses, yields, etc?
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:47 pm to
Does he ever sell right off the boat?
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:58 pm to
he can run red diesel in the shrimp boat which shouldn't be 5 dollars. Also, if he's getting only a dollar a pound it's because he's selling it mixed straight to some shrimp house, probably ran by Vietnamese. Needs to get his own marketing and sell it directly to consumers, which requires more personnel, or cull it out more to get higher margins on pre-sorted shrimp. That also requires more personnel. It's not an easy business anymore for an individual just wanting to run the boat. It would take some significant funding for an individual to start out in the business fresh and slightly less significant funding to improve the business from where it sounds like he is at. Also, does he have a federal waters license, or just state waters?
At this point, it is kind of like farming and fairly commercialized. I know someone who had some serious cash to throw around that did it for a while, talking 500k probably spent, no longer in that business, and certainly took a loss in the long run before calling it quits. Good luck to your pop.
Posted by adamau
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:00 pm to
candlesticks make a nice gift
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:19 pm to
I think we need a tariff on imported seafood. It's a shame that shrimp that sells for $8 a pound nets the fisherman $1.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:23 pm to
There's no money in it anymore. Used to actually be pretty lucrative. Foreign imports have decimated the industry. To head out for a week, up front you're buying hundreds of gallons of diesel, ice, groceries for the week, etc. The sheds are only giving $1 to $1.50 a pound. Selling to the public is more profitable but can also take more time that you could be out there catching more shrimp. Breakdowns and other unexpected expenses are inevitable. The only guys making any money are the ones that can stay out longer, or the small skiffs that go in and out.

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