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re: Should Arts and Humanities Majors be denied Grants and Loans?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:50 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:50 pm to Epic Cajun
I mean, commision kinda gives a hint to the basic industry 
But my point is valid regardless. And I know you were just fricking around
But my point is valid regardless. And I know you were just fricking around
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:50 pm to SmackoverHawg
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I went to college and med school for less than $45k. WTH are people spending this money on. After scholarships and other academic rewards and loan paybacks, I paid $0 in tuition. We lived meagerly and had only some loans on my wife when we both graduated. After college and 4 yr pharmD she owed $32k.
No way man. The government is paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for everyone to major in African women and gender studies. Posters in this very thread have the IRS come to their door and have them cut a check for the guy next door who works at Starbucks. Trust me.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:51 pm to Iona Fan Man
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taxpayers shouldn't be funding degrees that don't lead to direct professional employment
How bout if all you frickers pay your own way and we (taxpayers) quit subsidizing everyone? I shouldn't have to pay for anyone's education, except my own or my kids if I so choose.
Odd the OP is so arbitrary about what he thinks is a beneficial degree and what isn't. Or what leads to " direct employment". No real way to determine that.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:51 pm to Iona Fan Man
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taxpayers shouldn't be funding degrees that don't lead to direct professional employment
Universities exist for the purpose of A&H. If you just want a job, there's this thing called a trade school.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:51 pm to BayouBandit24
The government is paying for bar tabs and spring break in Gulf Shores.
That's what I used my money on, anyway. No regrets. Had more fun than you thrifty idiots.
That's what I used my money on, anyway. No regrets. Had more fun than you thrifty idiots.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:51 pm to Iona Fan Man
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if you are using someone else's money, it has to be an approved major that will lead to direct employment in that field.
So what happens to the engineering student that fails out? His money could have been better used on someone like my wife. Your stance continues to fall flat on its face.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:52 pm to Epic Cajun
What don't you believe? There is a shitload of money flying around right now kids.
I had beers with an old colleague last week, he just quit his job to take a year off. Has two kids, wife is an investment banker. Psychology major, sales rep for a large reseller, 8 years in the game and he personally made $350,000 last year. He is thirty-two.
I have a friend that dropped out of a psychology program from a directional school. He is a channel manager in a firm, four years in the tech game, he is pulling down $175,000. He is 34.
After his connections got him in the door, nobody even asked about his degree, they just assumed.
Both of them are smart and charismatic, equipped with no technical acumen whatsoever.
I had beers with an old colleague last week, he just quit his job to take a year off. Has two kids, wife is an investment banker. Psychology major, sales rep for a large reseller, 8 years in the game and he personally made $350,000 last year. He is thirty-two.
I have a friend that dropped out of a psychology program from a directional school. He is a channel manager in a firm, four years in the tech game, he is pulling down $175,000. He is 34.
After his connections got him in the door, nobody even asked about his degree, they just assumed.
Both of them are smart and charismatic, equipped with no technical acumen whatsoever.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:53 pm to SmackoverHawg
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I went to college and med school for less than $45k.
250k now...did you buy your first house for $20k, your first car for $5k.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:54 pm to The Third Leg
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What don't you believe? There is a shitload of money flying around right now kids.
Oh, I'm well aware, especially in tech fields. If you continue reading you'll see that I was just fricking with him.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:55 pm to Iona Fan Man
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f you pay for it yourself, sure
if you are using someone else's money, it has to be an approved major that will lead to direct employment in that field.
what's wrong with that?
Because the price of college right now has nothing to do with degrees, employability, etc. so the inability of those students to pay for something that is now astronomically overpriced for EVERYONE is only because of free money for college in the first place. It was government intervention that drove prices so high, not just general college growth.
If you fix what caused the mess, and college cheapens, then this wouldn't be an issue. But that's a much harder proposition. Then your science degrees can be worth EVEN MORE and A &H won't be set back so hard, even if everyone remains stubborn in how they hire and what they think.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:56 pm to Epic Cajun
I'm really high. Rambling.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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I mean, commision kinda gives a hint to the basic industry
sex sells....IMHO, your wife could be different...sociology/psychology/LArts studies are chosen NOT because of interest in the field exactly, but more a response to the question... "which majors will I not have to take a bunch of Math in?"
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:57 pm to Iona Fan Man
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sociology/psychology/LArts studies are chosen NOT because of interest in the field exactly, but more a response to the question... "which majors will I not have to be a bunch of Math in?"
Don't feed this troll anymore.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:58 pm to Iona Fan Man
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250k now...did you buy your first house for $20k, your first car for $5k.
The costs are irrelevant to the idea of subsidizing a student. You either do or don't subsidize them. Careful what you ask for.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:01 pm to The Third Leg
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What don't you believe? There is a shitload of money flying around right now kids.
I had beers with an old colleague last week, he just quit his job to take a year off. Has two kids, wife is an investment banker. Psychology major, sales rep for a large reseller, 8 years in the game and he personally made $350,000 last year. He is thirty-two.
I have a friend that dropped out of a psychology program from a directional school. He is a channel manager in a firm, four years in the tech game, he is pulling down $175,000. He is 34.
After his connections got him in the door, nobody even asked about his degree, they just assumed.
Both of them are smart and charismatic, equipped with no technical acumen whatsoever.
Because 95% of jobs are much, much easier than people like to think they are. Even engineering. Outside of Law, Medicine and the Hard Sciences, it's really a wash. Even computer science is graspable if you have the time to work at it. And things like Network Security....your assessments and certifications count WAY more than a degree. Engineering, it's computer aided problem solving and project management. Any capable person who's given the right time and investment from a company, has the desire, drive, and interest in the area, can do 95% of jobs in this world.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:02 pm to BayouBandit24
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Don't feed this troll anymore.
You have never met anyone who has found Math intimidating? If you have, what was their major of choice?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:05 pm to Freauxzen
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Any capable person who's given the right time and investment from a company, has the desire, drive, and interest in the area, can do 95% of jobs in this world.
I completely agree with this...we should just have accredited apprenticeships....they teach you the job.
then college can go to being ONLY Liberal Arts....as there are no apprenticeships in LGBT studies.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:05 pm to Iona Fan Man
I find foreign language intimidating, so I took the easy way and got an engineering degree. I shouldn't have gotten any aid since I took the easy way out, right?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:06 pm to Iona Fan Man
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You have never met anyone who has found Math intimidating? If you have, what was their major of choice?
I despise math (advanced maths such as calculus). My major of choice is health information systems, I have a graduate degree and didn't borrow a penny to get it.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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I find foreign language intimidating, so I took the easy way and got an engineering degree.
which language? Maybe Chinese?....well there are 1.5 billion Chinese speakers already....so no demand.....far fewer Engineering Speakers...so there's a demand....so you get funding to learn it.....tah-dah
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