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re: Shooting at UCLA, Murder-Suicide suspected

Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:25 pm to
multiple people reporting 3 shooters
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:26 pm to
rumors of 3 shooters with 1 female shooter

like i said on poli board, that's getting into M-word territory

MSNBC is also downplaying the shooting, which is rare and odd

*ETA: but first reports are often wrong so that 3 shooter thing may be wrong
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:27 pm to
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I own many guns and I am 100% against gun control but I'm tired of seeing these stupid statements from the side of the aisle that is supposed to have some sense.




I despise how many people think they're making a point by dropping to that asinine level and slinging stupid comments like that. It is the equivalent to people saying "but, but it's the statues' fault" if something goes down in New Orleans. You're doing yourself or your side no favors by doing that sort of thing.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:27 pm to
Great place to visit but I couldn't live there
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:27 pm to
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like i said on poli board, that's getting into M-word territory



I shouldn't have, but I laughed at "M-word".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:28 pm to
well what is the point of a gun free zone, then?
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:30 pm to
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UCLA Newsroom ?@UCLAnewsroom
Police confirm 2 dead in shooting at UCLA. Police are sweeping Engineering IV building for a possible shooter. Watch for updates.
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:31 pm to
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cording to reports from students on campus there are 2-3 possible shooters. Up to 7 injured




This is almost always reported in active shooter situations at the beginning. Happened at the Delta State shootings last fall but turned out to be one crazy dude.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:31 pm to
That multi shooter rumor would help to justify response, but could also just be a heavy response based on UCLA/LA.

Obviously I hope this turns out to be a limited murder/suicide thing. But, on the other hand, it's annoying how sensationalized the coverage and response is if this turns out to be a small incident.

I don't blame law enforcement if so, I know they don't know the full story at the outset. But I can't help but believe there is some "let's go use our DHS money" in the overwhelming response.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:33 pm to
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This is almost always reported in active shooter situations at the beginning. Happened at the Delta State shootings last fall but turned out to be one crazy dude.



More often than not, I'd say.

I'm glad we have all these immediately-available response teams and cable news to bring us every single development, but for observers trying to figure out if something really serious is going on, it gets more frustrating every year.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:35 pm to
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well what is the point of a gun free zone, then?


There isn't one but saying "How can there be an active shooter in a gun free zone?" is dense AF. It doesn't progress your cause in the slightest bit. Instead it just makes you look petty.

On another note, it is cut from the same cloth as the anti-gun crowd comments after a situation like this. You cannot chastise the left for their agenda while supporting comments like that from the right. Can a tragedy just be a tragedy for a few hours?
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:37 pm to
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Can a tragedy just be a tragedy for a few hours?
Of course not. You should know that by now.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:37 pm to
This is why I'm voting trump
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:38 pm to
Live press conference LINK
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:39 pm to
This press conference is telling us nothing
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:40 pm to
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it is cut from the same cloth as the anti-gun crowd comments after a situation like this. You cannot chastise the left for their agenda while supporting comments like that from the right.

why? they're not on the same spectrum

the "gun free zone" stuff is just a ready-made response to the inevitable gun control arguments we all know is coming

it's like the "cut off teh head and the body will die" stuff. stop with the emotional pandering for gun control after these incidents and the other comments dry up. if that doesn't happen, there will be responses ready (like the "gun free zone" comments). if you remove the "gun free zone" comments, then you will do nothing for the gun control desires. therefore, they're not equal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:40 pm to
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This press conference is telling us nothing

i can't believe that a-hole asked if the victims were male or female

how can we know how they identify if they're dead?
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:41 pm to
Sounds like a murder-suicide. Open and shut.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:41 pm to
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This press conference is telling us nothing


It tells us something. They say the search is ongoing, but the lack of urgency indicates it's over and they're just coving all the bases. Sounds like a murder-suicide.

ETA: Either some kind of relationship issue, a stalker, or a student-teacher conflict.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:42 pm to
Only 3 pages after an hour?? We must be getting numb to this stuff.
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