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re: SELA engineers: are things looking doom and gloom for you?

Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:46 am to
Posted by PLaneTiger
Member since Jun 2014
863 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:46 am to
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You'll pass so long as you're not getting grades well below the average.


Agreed. I have been apart of a few 50's averages. Just have to know that most are in the same boat and most teachers aren't failing the majority of the class.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49516 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:48 am to
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As others have mentioned, location should absolutely be secondary, unless you have something really pressing with your immediate family IMO.



As I mentioned earlier, I'm really close with my 84 year old gamgam. Plus I'm not great at making friends. Staying in NOLA is worth at least $5000/yr to me.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49516 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:56 am to
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Agreed. I have been apart of a few 50's averages. Just have to know that most are in the same boat and most teachers aren't failing the majority of the class.



I'm in that situation right now. I'm in my final semester and I've easily got an A or B in all classes but Physics 3 (Quantum Physics + Relativity). I got a 50 on the first test. Average was a 60. UNO allows a D as a passing grade for all but a handful of key classes (Circuits, Signals, Electronics 1). The problem is, this plan was implemented a year ago (I started at UNO 3 years ago) and I've never had a D before, so I'm not part of the "new plan". If I get a D in that class, I can't graduate this semester, but I can transfer over to the new curriculum and graduate at the end of the summer without taking any classes. Had I previously gotten a D in a non-core class and transferred over to the new curriculum, I could get a D in Physics 3 and graduated this semester. Basically, I would be punished for my previous success. It's fricking ridiculous.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:06 am to
Like I said earlier, I hope it isn't important because I have a 2.1. Have like 200hrs, so it would take a lot for me to get dropped. I've got a shite ton of experience across the board.

I am guessing it matters a lot for younger guys with no experience. I don't think it'll prevent me from getting a decent job. Definitely will rule me out of some though. Basically, get some experience doing something mechanical. Maybe small equipment repair, working at a fab shop, or something similar if you can't find an internship with a bigger company. Just try to do something with your hands IMHO
Posted by nismosao
Slidell
Member since Mar 2008
895 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:23 am to
Ok so my situation was very similar to yours coming out in 2009, except my GPA was much worse, and well I was 25 not 32. I had to take a job making 40k in the mep consulting industry. Turns out I loved the work. Now only 5 years later, just found another job making over double that.

You have to get your foot in the door. I know of a bunch of mep companies are hiring right now, and the company I'm leaving needs someone in the worst way.

I'll give you my email if you want
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:52 am to
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You never give bad news, you always frame it as great news. Say you have a month delay or something


Its hard to frame as good news when a rig rate is $1MM per day and your current delivery of equipment is weeks after the start date. You blow smoke as much as you can but eventually they have to be informed. My job is to keep trying to make it better.

I'm not a natural salesman because I can be argumentative. If I'm right, I have a hard time backing down. Customers think they are right about everything and are constantly trying to shite on the service your company is providing. Some of it is true, some of it is on them but you have you have to know when to hold your tongue and when not to. I work with a few customers who think they are the smartest people ever and constantly throw out statements that I wish I could just respond with "well, you don't know what the hell you're talking about, so I'm going to ignore everything you say about this and move on", but I can't.

Plus our engineers are immune from this stuff. If you are in front of the customer and need an answer in a day, you take the heat until its done. If you need it in a day, the engineer will have it in a week and its still considered acceptable. Wouldn't mind going back if it wasn't for the pay
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17706 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:38 am to
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NOLA has its hooks in me. I'm not good at making new friends and I enjoy seeing my family at least once a week. I'm really close to my gamgam and she only has, at MOST, 10 years left. Maybe only a few.



With that mentality you will not prosper regardless of what you pursue period.

Go wait tables with that EE
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:48 am to
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Like I said earlier, I hope it isn't important because I have a 2.1. Have like 200hrs, so it would take a lot for me to get dropped. I've got a shite ton of experience across the board.


This was me- I transferred to UNO and finished my CE degree after a previous Math degree ( I like pain ). My transferred GPA was a 2.0.

Graduated with a major 3.5 and on Deans List, and with internships. Moved to New York City the day after graduating, and am still up here. Don't move to New York if you're making less than $100k. The drop in quality of life isn't worth it.

With all that said, look into MEP work. Its not glamorous, but it will get your bills paid and with your previous HVAC experience, that's a plus.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:53 am to
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most teachers aren't failing the majority of the class.


Later on in the program, maybe not, but I distinctly remember in thermo Wong failing anyone below a 70, with no curve. Class average was a 35. Jacobs did the same thing in Statics.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:57 am to
That midtown life.

you can see my office in that pic.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:03 am to
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i didnt work my arse off to be a glorified technician


You don't deserve a good job with that attitude.

I fricking dug ditches at shell norco with a fricking shovel in August with 95% of an ME degree and 2 internships under my belt for $14/hr and you're too good to work on MRI machines for $60k a year???
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:22 am to
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with a fricking shovel in August with 95% of an ME degree


So not an ME degree...
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:27 am to
If it makes you feel better, I spent 4 days holding a paint brush 3 weeks ago with 100% of an ME degree as a project manager.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:29 am to
shite a buddy of mine dug ditches for 9 months for $18/hr AFTER he graduated.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6711 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:36 am to
I would not call him a "real family" uncle

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:56 am to
It happens.

One of the biggest gripes you hear from the older guys about the new guys is that they feel like they're above doing some less than glorious work. Be that guy who will do whatever it takes to get the job done right and you won't have to worry about bad job markets.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67083 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:58 am to
Upstream: oil and gas production. Exploration, Drilling, completions, ect.
Midstream: transportation of oil and gas, pipelines, shipping terminals, railroads, ect.
Downstream: what people do with oil and gas products. Refining, petrochemicals, power plants and factories that use it as a feed stock, ect.

And to answer the OP, I'm a CM graduate and crazy busy.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 9:00 am
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:04 am to
I have a friend with a very similar story.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:32 am to
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One of the biggest gripes you hear from the older guys about the new guys is that they feel like they're above doing some less than glorious work


I'm by no means an older guy, but I've seen this a few times. When we were in our "training" period, they used us to run errands to pick up gauges from the calibration shop, or run something to a local machine shop to show them exactly what we needed done. I remember one guy who had just started with us speaking out in a meeting with some pretty high up management saying that he thought the shop guys should be doing that stuff, he felt that as an engineer he had more important stuff he could be doing . Guy would only work on stuff he thought was worthy of him.

What some people don't realize is that doing those menial tasks teaches you how the whole operation works, so when you need to do something at the drop of a hat, you know what that machine shop can do for you in a pinch, and you know where you can get an out of date gauge calibrated in a few hours. Those people end up not working out for us.


But to the comment about having 95% of an ME degree, I would say that is pretty good for the resume of a waiter or something similar . Even with my degree, I don't think that the degree itself was worth anything. Still had (and have) learning to do. They hire you because they know you can make it through. I know people with 80% of an ME degree who dropped. That 80% is the same as 0% if you never finish. Now I know you finished, but just saying.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:34 am to


My $5/hr supervising two guys when I was younger laughs at that. One was a crackhead, and the other was a 6'4 Indian that drank the entire day. Would even bring beer into Wendy's. I laughed every time he said "How". I was installing sprinkler systems, but we frequently dug ditches by hand
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