re: Russia Unveils New Main Battle Tank, Among Other Things

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and apparently idiots like you...

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Any of homos touch me or any of my stuff, I'll kill ya.

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Where Vito and StraightCash have lead an otherwise entertaining thread...

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You're right, and for my part, I apologize.

Now, back to the Russians.

I think they are on to something with this automated tank turret. Just a matter of time before we have drone tanks on the battlefield, and this may be the first step.

The military people can clarify, but do we even have tank battles anymore?

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The military people can clarify, but do we even have tank battles anymore?

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The last big one was back in the First Gulf War in 1991. Now if we were to go to war in Europe against Russia, there would be huge tank battles.

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You can read your books all day long...You'd be surprised to know how close other subs can get to our ships (and vice versa)

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:-) at least you backtracked and included the vice-versa.

Means you recognize that the Russians aren't the only ones with ultra-modern submarine forces.

Any naval war between us and the Russians would be very brief, same with the Chinese. Will their be losses, of course, but neither of those navys is much of a match for ours.

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There's still the problem of the auto-loader system and the inherent disadvantages it has to a human loader.

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Yeah, but if you build enough of them, and they are unmanned, who cares if a human being is faster.

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People today feel that modern warfare should be like going to the target range. We've been spoiled by Desert Storm and subsequent wars. The fact is that your opponent has a brain and it works just as well as you. There will be losses on both sides.

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pretty much this.

I have long said the era of a surface vessel is over in warefare. They look cool, but honestly they are there to be sunk.

Thing is, our sub forces will do a lot of the sinking of their naval forces, both surface and sub.

shrug.

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I even pointed out how weak the Germans and Poles are comparative to the Russians. I also pointed out how we've got only one light infantry brigade and one cavalry regiment in Europe right now. Yet, you still refuse to see logic. Is the hole you've got your head stuck in really that comfortable?

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Very.

Air power and logistics are a huge factor in today's battlefield.

We are better in the air and while I would hardly call the two training wars we just fought much of a battleground for hardening our pilots, it at least allowed us to test weapons systems against live targets.

When was the last time the Soviet...errr...Russians blew anything up with their airforce that was shooting back.

Experience and professionalism make a difference.

Today's Russia simply cannot support a logistical train across Europe being harassed the entire way from the air and ground.

Days and weeks, not months and years.

A Russian invasion of Poland would stall with in a few days.

They know it, and we know it.

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Wrong, the Battle of Stalingrad (23 August 1942 – 2 February 1943) was the turning point of the war on the Eastern Front and it began a mere 8 months after we got in the war.

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Stalingrad stopped the German thrust into the USSR, but it wasn't until Kursk that the Russians were able to expel the Germans from the USSR and begin their drive west. Notice that in my original post I said when the soviets started steam rolling through eastern europe. They still had to defend against the Kursk offensive after Stalingrad it wasn't until later in 1943 and into 1944 that they regained their territory and "broke out" into eastern europe.
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After Kursk and Stalingrad the Germans could not replenish their forces especially their tank forces and stop the Soviets.

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According to economic historian Adam Tooze, in his book The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy, a turning point in the bomber offensive was reached in March 1943, during the Battle of the Ruhr. Over five months 34,000 tons of bombs were dropped. Following the raids, steel production fell by 200,000 tons, making a shortfall of 400,000 tons. Speer acknowledged that the RAF were hitting the right targets, and raids severely disrupted his plans to increase production to meet increasing attritional needs. Between July 1943 and March 1944 there were no further increases in the output of aircraft.[150]

The bombing of Hamburg in 1943 also produced impressive results. Tiger tank production, and the manufacture of 88mm guns, the most potent dual-purpose artillery piece in the Wehrmacht was "set back for months". On top of this, some 62 percent of the population was dehoused causing more difficulties. However, RAF Bomber Command allowed itself to be distracted by Harris' desire for a war winning blow, and attempted the fruitless missions to destroy Berlin and end the war by spring, 1944.[151]

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Stalins body count of his own citizens maybe? Please stop trolling