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re: ROI on Masters Programs
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:21 am to Cajun Revolution
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:21 am to Cajun Revolution
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It'd never thought I'd get in but apparently my resume, recommendations and letter were enough to make up for my General Studies undergrad at LSU. I didn't even take a LSAT, much less GMAT.
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The George Washington University and got accepted
I have a hard time believing this then. No offense but a top 20 law program wouldn't do this. Maybe if you are ethnic? a JD/MBA program is even harder to get into... Gotta call bullshite and yes it would be worth the expense if it is a true JD/MBA program.
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:23 am to carlsoda
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Application Requirements
GW Graduate Admissions online application form.
A non-refundable application fee.
Statement of Career Objectives: In no more than 500 words, describe how the MSGC program fits into your professional life and your career objectives.
A current resume.
Three letters of recommendation from professional and/or academic references.
Official GMAT or GRE scores, if applicable waived (The MSGC GMAT/GRE Waiver Application) for applicants with over 7 years of relevant professional work experience.
Official transcript from every college and/or university attended, even if it did not lead to a degree or if the credits appear on other transcripts.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 11:23 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:23 am to Cajun Revolution
I can tell you one thing...the cost of any higher education whether undergrad or grad is skyrocketing and salary inflation is NOT keeping pace.
The analysis is very position/career-path/industry specific, though. You really have to do some directed research in salaries/opportunities for those with such an advanced degree vs. those in the same or similar positions.
The analysis is very position/career-path/industry specific, though. You really have to do some directed research in salaries/opportunities for those with such an advanced degree vs. those in the same or similar positions.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:25 am to Cajun Revolution
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Cajun Revolution
If this is something you really want to do, then go ahead and do it. For your first semester, it might be better to move up there and get settled in and then find a job once you get there. You'll want to find out the commitment that school will require before you find a job. Also, check into Graduate Assistantships. I had one that paid my tuition and I got a small monthly stipend. I worked in the reference library 20 hours a week.
Good luck!!
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:25 am to Cajun Revolution
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I refuse to believe sitting for some standardized test will determine success of a mature experienced prospective student.
That's a fair view, but it begs the question. The real question is what do the people who are going to pay your salary think about it. It's the golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
You want to know that decision with money will give you some of it based on this degree. My take is that decision makers with money are going to be less likely to do so if the program doesn't require standardized testing for entry. But that's just me.
I wish you all the luck in the world, really. But just be mindful of Rusty Cohle's advice:
As the right questions
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:25 am to Cajun Revolution
Then you are misleading a bit in your initial post about the law school part. It's probably taking a B law class. When I graduated in Econ some of my 4000 level courses were 7000 level too.
As far as being worth it idk. A JD MBA would certainly be worth it. This idk. Good luck and congrats though
As far as being worth it idk. A JD MBA would certainly be worth it. This idk. Good luck and congrats though
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:29 am to carlsoda
These are all 7000+ level classes. I don't know what to tell you, it's administrered by the law school. 18 hours are procurement/contract law. The other 18 hours are business school classes.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:33 am to Cajun Revolution
I wouldn't worry about it. The people graduating from program are averaging $60,000+ In their first year out of school (in a degree that typically doesn't make that much, especially at a first job). I don't know much about your degree but I'm sure it's similar. People won't overlook a masters from a prestigious program just because they don't allow test scores
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:35 am to carlsoda
I'm not trying to slam the program...except for what you've posted, I don't know anything about it.
What you are getting sounds just like a masters degree...a very specialized one at that.
I think there's a good market for those graduating from a JD/MBA program...and actually graduating with a JD and a MBA.
I don't know about your program. The thing that will worry me is that people will look at you (especially those with an advanced degree) as someone that was trying to skip corners or take the easy way out.
I'm not saying it's fair but with those advanced degrees comes arrogance.
I can also promise that if you are actually taking classes with students in law school, they will look down on you.
Again, not saying it's fair but that's life and it won't change until this type of degree is more common place and accepted in the professional world.
If you are familiar with this type of program, feel there's a good job at the other end...do it.
Just don't strut around saying you were accepted into GW law or business.
You will get backlash.
What you are getting sounds just like a masters degree...a very specialized one at that.
I think there's a good market for those graduating from a JD/MBA program...and actually graduating with a JD and a MBA.
I don't know about your program. The thing that will worry me is that people will look at you (especially those with an advanced degree) as someone that was trying to skip corners or take the easy way out.
I'm not saying it's fair but with those advanced degrees comes arrogance.
I can also promise that if you are actually taking classes with students in law school, they will look down on you.
Again, not saying it's fair but that's life and it won't change until this type of degree is more common place and accepted in the professional world.
If you are familiar with this type of program, feel there's a good job at the other end...do it.
Just don't strut around saying you were accepted into GW law or business.
You will get backlash.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 11:45 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:36 am to Cajun Revolution
If you can afford it, don't have any extenuating circumstances keeping you from moving up there for school, and don't have decent job prospects already, do it.
Otherwise, not worth it.
I could have gone to law school for cheap, but I was offered a job in my field right out of undergrad, so I couldn't justify the time and expense to get that next level degree. Every situation is different.
It's hard to scoff at an education from a tier 1 law school like George Washington, though.
Otherwise, not worth it.
I could have gone to law school for cheap, but I was offered a job in my field right out of undergrad, so I couldn't justify the time and expense to get that next level degree. Every situation is different.
It's hard to scoff at an education from a tier 1 law school like George Washington, though.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:55 am to stewie
I'm not sure why that would bother people saying I'm in a Masters program at GW. I really wouldn't care if some small dicked lawyer thought less of me.
If I wanted a MBA, I'd go get one. If I wanted law school, I'd go. Those degrees are dimes a dozen. This is something specialized and unique. I think that gives me an edge in my field.
Besides, I think it would be fun. How many jimmies would I rustle. It might be worth it to get a GW Law shirt.
If I wanted a MBA, I'd go get one. If I wanted law school, I'd go. Those degrees are dimes a dozen. This is something specialized and unique. I think that gives me an edge in my field.
Besides, I think it would be fun. How many jimmies would I rustle. It might be worth it to get a GW Law shirt.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:01 pm to Cajun Revolution
There seems to be a lot of confusion about what you're trying to do here (not necessarily your fault).
As it appears to me, this is a Masters program where some law classes are involved. Hence, it's run or partly run by the law school. I don't know if other schools do it, but it would make sense for a compliance degree/cert, even some HR programs.
It's not a law program, hence no LSAT. You're not competing against law students, hence taking the law courses is entirely different.
As it appears to me, this is a Masters program where some law classes are involved. Hence, it's run or partly run by the law school. I don't know if other schools do it, but it would make sense for a compliance degree/cert, even some HR programs.
It's not a law program, hence no LSAT. You're not competing against law students, hence taking the law courses is entirely different.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:05 pm to Cajun Revolution
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I'm not sure why that would bother people saying I'm in a Masters program at GW.
It wouldn't...and I think most people would congratulate you.
GW is a great school.
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It's not a law program, hence no LSAT. You're not competing against law students, hence taking the law courses is entirely different.
This is more or less the issue that popped up in my mind.
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his is something specialized and unique. I think that gives me an edge in my field.
Again, if you're comfortable, do it!
I'm certainly not judging because I know nothing about the program or your career path.
Hell, look at me...I'm an attorney farming with my father-in-law on his family farm.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:13 pm
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