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Replacing galvanized water pipe under house on piers

Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:27 pm
I am in BR and would like to replace one of the galvanized pipes under my house. They are the original pipes from 1941 I assume and water pressure is low in one of the longer lines. What material is best for replacing exposed water lines like this? PVC? PEX? Thanks
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11814 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:32 pm to
Sch. 40 PVC is best cost effective and reliable, but copper would be the best option, but costly
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22173 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:52 pm to
Pex just keep it out of direct sunlight.. if you go the plastic route use Cpvc, it is rated for hot water.. either way insulate the lines..
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:54 pm to
Pex 100%. Expands and contracts, will also never get brittle.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15118 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:55 pm to
DIY project or hiring a plumber?
Posted by KJS
Right here
Member since Oct 2010
253 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:04 pm to
Ditto on the pex. Brass shark bite compression fittings make for an easy breezy job. Most new homes built nowadays are plumed w pex.
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 4:16 pm to
This will be a DIY job. I don't mind crawling around under there. I have heard Pex from some folks and high grade pvc from others. I have never used Pex and don't know anything about it. Would I need to insulate Pex?
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12740 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 4:24 pm to
Pex. We did a home renovation project a couple of years ago, and I hired out the plumbing since I would need a new washing machine hookup, three new sinks, putting a toilet back after I put new floors in, a freestanding tub, a stall shower, and a new toilet, and all of the associated drains that would tie back in to the main drain in the basement. Also had him replace a leaky outdoor faucet while he was there. I watched them do some of the Pex work. I probably should have just watched some YouTube videos and done that myself. The only real difficult part to me looked to be hooking it to the existing copper lines. But at that point after I had done a ton of the demo work, new walls, and other stuff, I was ready to just write a check and be done with it, and the price was hard to beat knowing they would have it all complete in about 2-3 days. But Pex is great. Really easy to work with, and it will expand and not bust. You probably won't need to insulate it.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15118 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 4:45 pm to
PEX will require you to obtain some installation tools like a crimp. PVC measure, cut, measure and cut again cause you suck at measuring, glue
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7548 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 5:34 pm to
I'm in the PVC camp.

Pipe, fittings, glue/primer. That's it. Prime the joint for a better seal than just using the blue stuff.

Pex has not been trouble free despite what people say. Some fittings have failed, rodent damage is a real possibility. Also, the crimping tool for 3/4 and up is not cheap. If you use the Uponor expanding rings those tools are even more costly.

Funny how material/labor costs have gone down sharply with the use of pex but plumbing pricing has not followed.

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 5:37 pm to
PEX is much less likely to burst in a freeze, a real problem for Pier and stilt houses. You don't really need to insulate the PEX but you do need to wrap all the fittings with foam because they will burst.
The special tools are pretty cheap.

Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2505 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 6:53 am to
i'm in the pex camp. the first time i used it, my brother and i replaced all of the water lines in my rental (kitchen, 2 baths, laundry room and two outdoor faucets) in about 2 hours. no open flame like sweating copper and no glue drying time like pvc.

your bigger problem will be getting the old line out. after 74 years, the galvanized pipe will not simply unscrew from the fitting. the weakest point is apparently right at the fitting, and the pipe will twist off, always on the wrong side of the fitting.

i had a water main rust through on my 1945 capital heights house, and coburn supply suggested a fix for me that has worked well. cut the bad pipe off 6 inches from each end. use a compression fitting and a 6" nipple to restore threads to each end, then screw on a transition piece for whatever new material you use (pex, pvc, etc.)

each end would have a combination of this
compression fitting
galvanized nipple
transition from iron pipe to pex

attached by compression fitting to the remaining 6" of the cut-off pipe. your connection on each end would then be old pipe-compression fitting-iron pipe nipple-transition from iron pipe to new material.

you can make up both of the connections on the workbench, then all you have to do under the house is cut the pipe, attach the connections to the cut-off pipe and run the new material. while you're under there, you can T off the new material and add a new run for an outdoor faucet.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 6:58 am to
quote:

PVC measure, cut, measure and cut again cause you suck at measuring
Measure twice, cut once, bruh.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:35 am to
Cpvc for ease and Cooper is the best but pricey. PEX will require more specialty tools and rodents seem to gravitate to it and cause damage.
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