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Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:53 am to
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:53 am to
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Already have. Over 2 years ago. Nothing.


BOOM!!! Bringing the heat this morning...

on topic...I got one in Monroe ten years ago and paid it because I am a sap...
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:54 am to
Hit my wife's credit, found out when we were setting up a HELOC
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:59 am to
If you are regularly in New Orleans, you might think about paying it because they ride around scanning plates and will boot your car

I've got around 20 in New Orleans, but never park on the street, and if I do, it is after dark
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:12 am to
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It will hit your credit


I have one from 2 years ago that never got reported. It has been argued here many times before that it would be illegal for them to put this on your credit report.

Either way, didn't pay it... they made threats... didn't do shite.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:12 am to
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1. Real tickets will instruct you to contact the court to resolve matter in question while fake tickets (ATS and RedFlex) may tell you not to contact the court. Fake tickets are sent via regular US Postal Mail service, but appear to be "official," which they are not. Criminal citations are sent by registered or certified mail.
2. In Louisiana, RLC and speed camera citations are NOT a criminal offense. They are treated as CIVIL matter, partly because the OWNER of the vehicle is issued the citation (doesn't matter who is driving) and if contested, you won't be awarded the opportunity to go before a judge. Instead, you will have a hearing with an Administrative Adjudication officer (city appointed).
3. CIVIL offenses are NOT reported to the Louisiana DMV or your insurance company.
4. In Baton Rouge, city officials will NOT turn over your Social Security Number to a private company (ATS and RedFlex).
5. If unpaid fine goes on your credit report, simply dispute online with Equifax, Experian and TransUnion. Ask them to investigate and validate the debt owed. ATS and RedFlex must provide proof that you entered into an agreement for goods or services or signed promissory note.
6. If threatened with a collection notice or a harassing phone call, do the math. ATS and RedFlex send out thousands upon thousands citations each and every day. This is profitable for them to do, because many people are scared into thinking they have to pay (the media plays a large part in this) and because it's the "right thing to do." But think about the numbers ...

This was a post by WillCover that I bookmarked a while ago. No clue if any of it is true but it sounds like he knows what the frick he's talking about. So if I ever get one of these tickets I'm following this advice.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:14 am to
Side question: How illegal and/or how profitable would it be to just send out a shite ton of these tickets and ask for money-orders to be sent to a PO box? If you send out a thousand asking for 100$ and get seven back, you made a few bucks off dumb people and the risk of getting caught can't be that high right?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:14 am to
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4. In Baton Rouge, city officials will NOT turn over your Social Security Number to a private company (ATS and RedFlex).
5. If unpaid fine goes on your credit report, simply dispute online with Equifax, Experian and TransUnion. Ask them to investigate and validate the debt owed. ATS and RedFlex must provide proof that you entered into an agreement for goods or services or signed promissory note.


Yeah... that.
Posted by terd ferguson
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108742 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:16 am to
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In the United States, mail and wire fraud is any fraudulent scheme to intentionally deprive another of property or honest services via mail or wire communication. It has been a federal crime in the United States since 1872.


quote:

18 U.S.C. § 1341 provides:

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation occurs in relation to, or involving any benefit authorized, transported, transmitted, transferred, disbursed, or paid in connection with, a Presidential declared major disaster or emergency (as those terms are defined in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122)), or affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67899 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:18 am to
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If you are regularly in New Orleans, you might think about paying it because they ride around scanning plates and will boot your car



this is true

the work around is to re-register your car and get different plates
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:18 am to
I'm not reading all that shite. Good idea or bad idea?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
108742 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:26 am to
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Good idea or bad idea?



Cliff notes:

If you come up with a scheme to obtain money fraudulently and you do it through the mail... you will get sent to buttfrick prison.
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2009
7940 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:29 am to
Quit running red lights, you thug piece of shite.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72598 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:32 am to
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If you come up with a scheme to obtain money fraudulently and you do it through the mail... you will get sent to buttfrick prison.


UNLESS said scheme can benefit the government in some fashion. Namely, dolla' bills, y'all.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:35 am to
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If you come up with a scheme to obtain money fraudulently and you do it through the mail... you will get sent to buttfrick prison


frick, back to the drawing board then. There's gotta be a way to make a bunch of money without getting prison-raped or actually working. Having a job is fricking gay.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 8:35 am
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72598 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:39 am to
I have heard of two openings recently...Selling single cigs on the streets of NYC and black market Skittles in St. Louis suburbs...
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2456 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:40 am to
Willcover posted extensively on this a while back.
TL;DR version is don't worry about it. If they ever do any of the collection agency stuff they claim to, and actually ping your credit, just dispute the charge (Willcover described this better) and it gets scrubbed. This is all assuming baton Rouge though.

ETA: great job phitiger1764. that's the full answer.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 8:46 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:41 am to
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I've got around 20 in New Orlean


You've gotten around 20 red light tickets? Wtf?
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16196 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:42 am to
Good luck trying finance a house, car, or anything else.

It will frick up your credit.
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:45 am to
They will ding your credit report because of the collections....

frick em, don't pay it!
Posted by djangochained
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Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:53 am to
Is the car in your wife's name or something?

I would think it would hit your credit and not hers
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