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re: Rationale behind the roundabout going up on fla blvd?

Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:35 am to
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:35 am to
Big Ben!

Parliament!
Posted by Bubb
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:37 am to
They will figure it out eventually. It was a cf a few weeks ago. Fear of the unknown traffic cirlce.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:43 am to
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This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:45 am to
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That's the thing ppl don't know how to use them.
They don't frickin' know how to use signals, either. "Oh, hey. The light is green. Guess I'll wait for this car in front of me to move a quarter mile before I take my foot off of the brake."

If you know how to use a yield sign, then a roundabout is no problem. The issue is that people largely ignore yield signs because they're uncooperative assholes.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:47 am to
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rationale


quote:

roundabout


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fla blvd


honestly I think your answer is in your thread title.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:49 am to
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The state loves them due to there being less to maintain
The funding is also 100% federally backed, according to one of the traffic engineers at DOTD. That's another reason they love them.
Posted by LSUengr
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:19 am to
One of the biggest benefits is reduced conflict points reducing crashes. A 4 leg intersection has 32 conflict point, but a roundabout has only 8.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:30 am to
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That's the thing ppl don't know how to use them.


People don't know how to use center turn lanes, signals, lane merges, etc.

Stupidity/ignorance is never a good reason to do or not do something.
Posted by tiger94gop
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:48 am to
Could someone make this suggestion at Nicholson and Brightside. May be an issue with the tracks, but that intersection is just brutal. I know the city annexed it. Someone get Kip on the phone.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:20 pm to
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The funding is also 100% federally backed, according to one of the traffic engineers at DOTD. That's another reason they love them.



Uh... no.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:24 pm to
You must not know how roundabouts work.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:30 pm to
Like I said, just going off of what the district traffic engineer told me.

LINK

quote:

In accordance with 23 U.S.C. 120(c)(1), funds may be obligated at 100% Federal share for “certain safety
projects” which are limited to: traffic control signalization, maintaining minimum levels of retroreflectivity
of highway signs or pavement markings, traffic circles (also known as “roundabouts”), safety rest areas,
pavement marking, shoulder and centerline rumble strips and stripes, commuter carpooling and
vanpooling, rail-highway crossing closure, or installation of traffic signs, traffic lights, guardrails, impact
attenuators, concrete barrier endtreatments, breakaway utility poles, or priority control systems for
emergency vehicles or transit vehicles at signalized intersections.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:35 pm to
No electricity. No huge traffic lights. No worry with synchronization. Documented increase in traffic backup. They're being utilized heavily throughout LP as a cost saving and traffic reduction feature. They are radically inexpensive compared to intersections both up front and over the life of a light (electricity, etc).

Will be a huge improvement on Florida.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:50 pm to
They were always an adventure in Colorado when they first started installing them in the rural communities. It wasn't uncommon to see someone exiting on an incoming lane. The also didn't have a clue who had the right away at first.

Once people figure them out they're much more efficient.

Unless of course you're here in Africa. It's a horn blowing clusterfrick at every one with little chinese motorcycles weaving through the cars. First to get the nose of their car out has the right away.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by foshizzle
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 12:57 pm to
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who had the right away at first.

quote:

First to get the nose of their car out has the right away.


The "right away"?

Try "right of way".
Posted by bigrob385series
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:05 pm to
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Documented increase in traffic backup.
this i can believe.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:06 pm to
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Like I said, just going off of what the district traffic engineer told me.



Well, that's not exactly the case... state funds will still be used, but I ain't typing a wall of text to explain why.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:09 pm to
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this i can believe.


I'm thinking that was a typo and should have said documented decrease.
Posted by slinger1317
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:34 pm to
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I drove the roundabout in Paris that goes around the Arc de Triumph. That's a freaking beast to navigate. It's like 5-6 lanes wide and there is no lane markings at all. I had to make 3 rotations to get to the road I needed to go down. It was like a giant toilet bowl swirl


LINK
Posted by GFunk
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

LNCHBOX
quote:

I'm thinking that was a typo and should have said documented decrease.


Absolutely correct. I made a mistake. Thank you for pointing it out.
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