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Racism in the medical profession

Posted on 4/14/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 5:57 pm
Doctors and med students of the OT, what say you about this article:

LINK

I for one was a little bit surprised that she automatically assumed racism because three people wore confederate flag T-shirts that she was treating, depicted here:


From what she said of the encounter, nothing they said or did was racist, but that's one man's opinion. Anyone with some knowledge want to comment?
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 5:59 pm to
It's alright man.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

Despite all the other positive interactions I had with this teacher, her silence in this circumstance diminished my presence. I wondered if she thought of me as a “colored girl” too.


No. She just thought the patient was an idiot and ignored it.

No use in arguing with an idiot.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21450 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:01 pm to
The horror! She was called a colored girl. She needs a safe space and a practice in either the 9th ward or Livingston Parish.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:02 pm to
quote:



No. She just thought the patient was an idiot and ignored it.

No use in arguing with an idiot.


I got the same impression. Throughout the article she kept commenting on how it was the attending's job to somehow mention that the patient was ignorant, which I thought was funny.
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:04 pm to
Definitely racism. If you aren't black, asian, or mexican, you have a slim to none chance of getting into med school
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11216 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:04 pm to
She's going to have a rough career if she let's thing like this get to her. It's not the color of her skin that's the problem, it's the fact it's too thin for this profession.

And don't blame a poor evaluation on an attending being racist, blame it on yourself for putting stupid, contrived "social justice" ahead of learning how to be the best clinician which is the whole reason you're there.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10850 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:06 pm to
Medicine is not a safe space. If these things bother you, then you probably won't last. In fact, you probably shouldn't have any job where you deal with the general public.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

Definitely racism. If you aren't black, asian, or mexican, you have a slim to none chance of getting into med school



I'm white and in medical school

Diversity applicants do have a higher chance, but the vast majority of students in medical school are white.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28423 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

A few weeks later when I received my clinical evaluations, I perceived some of the feedback as unkind. I couldn’t tell if the comments actually reflected my performance or if I, too, was being punished for speaking out, or maybe even for being black. It was terrifying not knowing the difference.

Evaluations are based on your performance, knowledge, and professionalism. I can't definitely say that she got poor evaluations due to these factors and not due to her skin color, but this sounds like a cop out.

Through my four years of Med school we only had one racial incident. We had a practice case on the computer in which a black female patient (who happened to play basketball and live in the hood) was diagnosed with gonorrhea. The black people in my class were up in arms about the case because it was the first computer case with a black patient, and they thought it portrayed negative stereotypes. The very next day the teacher who ran the computer cases brought in the doctor who wrote the case... She was black. The case was based on an actual patient of this doctor. I'm pretty sure every other person in the class gave a silent fist pump when the professor introduced the doctor to the class
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:06 pm to
She's has a long road ahead of her...
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16175 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:07 pm to
Thoughout medical school, residency, and fellowship, I spent time focusing on how to best help OTHERS, rather than how they made me feel.

As a physician, I am there to help the patient. My faculty is there to teach medical skills and take care of patients. They are not there to worry about my snowflake feelings.

If a patient hates me, and see my kindness, it may change their attitude towards others like me.

A seminar and an initiative will never change racism. Relationships change racism and sexism. Not BS confrontations and lectures.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:07 pm to
Based on the lower test scores for applicants of some minority groups to medical school...

Maybe they should be.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68439 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:10 pm to
What a bunch of horse shite. My gf said she got treated like shite all the time by other people during clinicals. Has nothing to do with the color of her skin. You are in for a rude awakening if you think everyone you encounter is going to be nice to you.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28423 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:17 pm to
Yeah, some attendings just treat you like shite. You can't assume it's because of your skin color with no other evidence to support that assumption. The part where she expected the doctor to discuss the patients wearing confederate flags is just a joke. Those clinics are nuts and you don't have time to discuss petty bullshite that might hurt your feelings, especially something as insignificant as a flag on a hat or t-shirt. If the patients had berated her about her skin color, then sure, it should be addressed. In this instance I think it's just another case of someone looking to be offended.

quote:

I fear my heart was hardened by an extra burden, of my educators being blind to my worth as a woman of color.

And what about being a woman of color gives you any more worth than any other medical student?
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:20 pm to
I brought it up because people on my school's class facebook page are sharing it and commending her for her bravery and I just didn't get it.

We're all in third year and when any of us go into our rotations every day I don't think we're being "brave".
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 6:23 pm
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:22 pm to
All these coddled pussies will continue to be in for rude awakenings once they leave their college campuses.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98758 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:24 pm to
Race should not matter in medicine outside of considering how cultural factors may influence diagnosis and treatment. For example, use of the word "dementia" with Hispanic patients can interfere with treatment as they interpret that as "crazy" due to translation factors. Using more specific terms such as memory loss is better practice in such a scenario.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40418 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:26 pm to
It's pretty much been said already, but does this woman think that because she's well educated her perceptions of tolerance are more viable to a bunch of idiots (ignorant patients)? It's not any more of a doctor's job to lecture their patients on political correctness than it is a waiter's.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25852 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 6:27 pm to
I only go to Indian cardiologists. Does that make me racist?
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