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re: Question For Current/Recently Deployed Military

Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12102 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:21 pm to
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God damn you're fricking stupid. Stereotypes exist for a reason



Lol, pretty stereotypical response
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50131 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:22 pm to
He's not going to be issued a sidearm, Beretta or otherwise. 1371.
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:31 pm to
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He's not going to be issued a sidearm, Beretta or otherwise. 1371.


Retired Army guy but guessing the USMC is handled the same. If the reason is that he's not issued one then it'd be pointless. If his slot doesn't designate him for a handgun, it'd be pretty obvious to everyone when he's carrying it that it's not issued. In an (Army) engineer unit, they are usually reserved for senior rank and medical personnel.

Besides, as someone said here earlier, handguns are pretty pointless compared to the M4 outside of convenience in the chowhall or going to the shitter. And easier to clean.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71471 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:36 pm to
(OP) They issue and qualify with that weapon for a purpose. There is many reasons, but a lot of others have already said the big ones.

If he isn't going to be issued a pistol, chances are great that he will never leave the wire. Or he's in a billet that doesn't rate a pistol.

Typically ground guys, aircrew, and OFFICER/SNCO's are issued pistols. For EX: SNCO's they check their rifles in the "unit armory" , and cary the pistol around.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:45 pm to
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He's not going to be issued a sidearm, Beretta or otherwise. 1371.


Well he sure as hell won't get issued ammo if he brought one with him.
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
The Golf Board Godfather
Member since Apr 2010
13637 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:47 pm to
Is your position MTOEd for one?

Mine is and they offered it to me, but I don't plan to dual carry
Posted by YawBaw7
Your Mom's house
Member since Jan 2017
414 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:57 pm to
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If he isn't going to be issued a pistol, chances are great that he will never leave the wire


Wrong
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71471 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:00 pm to
I know it's wrong because I've been in that situation where I was emergency reclamation for our unit and had to go when our aircraft was shot down. My point being most times its because of TO/Billet , but also due to the fact that it could be an MOS.

Even if the kid is a engineer, who is he with? Division or wing? Could shut this argument down very fast
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:04 pm to
WTH would you want to carry a pistol? I was a pilot and it was a pain in the arse. We carried both an M9 and an M4. When I took a hit and forced landed you better believe I manned my M4 and never once though about the M9 attached to my air warrior vest.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:05 pm to
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How hard is it for an NCO Marine to get a sidearm through on a deployment to the Middle East? TIA



You are going to get your kid a Field Grade Art 15 or a Summary Court.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:05 pm to
I mean walking to the DFAC and back it was obviously convenient to only carry my M9, but very minor convenience.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71471 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:08 pm to
Yeah that's the only reason why ppl wish they had a M9. Never bothered me having my A4 slung around me.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:14 pm to
I was under the impression all Marines were issued a rifle and a handgun.








One is for fighting, one is for fun.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50131 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:15 pm to
No.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71471 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:16 pm to
just saw Netflix just added that.
Posted by Womski
Squire Creek
Member since Aug 2011
2762 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:46 pm to
I get it Marines are stupid, but this is bad even for a jarhead.
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:04 pm to
Nope.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24835 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:15 pm to
Some people may snicker at this, but most guys who have deployed know 100% that it is the truth...

He can literally buy one while deployed. I don't suggest this, but you can get your hands on a weapon pretty easil.

In Iraq suq AlMuraidi has every weapon known to man, and monkeys.

In AFG it's ridiculously easy to get a weapon.

Again, I do not suggest he do this, but it's at least safer than smuggling one into country.

EDIT: If he works with/gets cool with any SOF guys, they will give him one from the economy. We had so many weapons we didn't know what the hell to do with em.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14296 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:35 pm to
Had an NCO in my unit do this in 03 before we rolled into Iraq. He got caught in Kuwait and got in serious shite. They did not take it lightly.
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