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re: Question about fireplaces for people who have built a house

Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Fat Harry
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:35 pm to
Masonry Products in New Orleans LINK
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:37 pm to
Do you have anything else to offer other than a refresher course on wood + heat = ash

Also, thanks for the tip that a full tree doesn't fit into the fireplace and will need to be chopped.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:38 pm to
hay man I'm a glass 1/2 empty kinda guy. Just let me run with it
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:39 pm to
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so IDGAF if its a needless relic.


Pot meet Kettle
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:42 pm to
You gonna need one of these as well



Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:43 pm to
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buying the fire box and exhaust pipe


Rinky dink fireplace. You should build it all out of masonry.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:44 pm to
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Pot meet Kettle
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:44 pm to
Gotcha
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:50 pm to
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I'd start by looking here
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Ash Williams
Name checks out.
Also, you're doing god's work in this thread.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:52 pm to
Pretty sure ours is a firerock. Check out firerock.us.

Should have vented and ventless, wood burning and gas.
Posted by shamrock
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:53 pm to
All brick fireplace is worth the investment
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:55 pm to
I built one for our patio and bought a firerock kit. I would highly recommend one
Posted by Verbal Kent
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:01 pm to
Put a screen at the top of the chimney to keep birds out at the time of construction. Trust me
Posted by GumboDave
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:15 pm to
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I plan on buying the fire box and exhaust pipe then having my builder frame it in. I will then bring in a brick guy and brick around the firebox to the ceiling.


If you are using a builder then you are better off telling them what you want and letting them handle it. They will get better prices and already have the subs lined up.

When people like you try to buy this and buy that, and handle these small task themselves, it makes the building process worse for your contractor and doesn't save anyone money.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:44 pm to
How can me buying the materials and giving them to him to build to prevent him from marking up make it worse for the builder?

I'm paying for materials so he doesn't get any money until the work is complete. I don't see why everyone doesn't do it this way instead of over paying for turn key.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Also, thanks for the tip that a full tree doesn't fit into the fireplace and will need to be chopped.


You are buying the wrong size fireplace
Posted by highcotton2
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:20 pm to
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. I will then bring in a brick guy and brick around the firebox to the ceiling.


Why not put in a real fireplace and brick it from the ground up? Don't know about the building codes where you are but if it is not in the plans with support pillars under the floor they will probably not let you brick it from the floor to the ceiling.

Edit: Disregard everything I just said the houses built where I live are crawl space houses. I just thought about you are probably talking about a slab house.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 5:24 pm
Posted by 4WHLN
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:28 pm to
You basically have two options. Isokern is a true masonary firebox and chase that allows you to brick all the way up to the chimney cap above the roof. The other is a metal insert the likes you see in 75% of these cookie cutter houses we all like in. Either one you fit inside your framing and then brick the exterior firebox to the ceiling. Metal insert is about $1200 if I recall and the Isokerns start around $4000 but look much better and will last much longer than the metal drop ins.
Posted by 4WHLN
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:33 pm to
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How can me buying the materials and giving them to him to build to prevent him from marking up make it worse for the builder? I'm paying for materials so he doesn't get any money until the work is complete. I don't see why everyone doesn't do it this way instead of over paying for turn key.

You kinda going at this step backwards. Usually the company you buy the fireplace from installs them. Houses have and do burn down due to improper fireplace installation. Might want to talk with your builder and the fireplace company and make sure there are no issues with the contractor doing the install.
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:01 pm to
Hey bud, I'm a builder. What's your budget? A base 36" is what is in most builder grade included items.
If you want to ball out, get a 42" with a blower. It will heat most your home, but will probably run you about 3k. Masonry products/Foster Taylor is a great place to look.
Have the plumber put you a gas start. It will cost the price of a gas drop, probably 300-400, but will cut the time to start a good fire. If you work late and don't have a gas starter, by the time you get a good fire coal bed going, it's time to go to bed.
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