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Question about Employee to Employer Loyalty? When did you stop being loyal?
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:24 pm
I read this article on my LinkedIn feed.
Underemployment is "New Normal"
Its not the employment part that I found abnormal, its the author's perspective on work place ethics. Is her quote accurate.
Underemployment is "New Normal"
Its not the employment part that I found abnormal, its the author's perspective on work place ethics. Is her quote accurate.
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Some people are going to fight back in the comments below this article and say Lisa is a job hopper who is going to get a bad reputation and eventually won't get hired. Not true. There's a big difference between a person who just jumps jobs becuase they are disatisfied and a professional who strategically moves on to grow their skills. As I mentioned, in some cases, Lisa does stay for more than 2 years because the opportunity to grow is there. However, I think it's more important to remember none of the companies she worked for guaranteed loyalty to her - and they don't guarantee us loyalty either. Unless you are part of a union, you are an "at-will" employee, which means either side can terminate the relationship at any time. If a company has to lay you off to keep the business in business, they will. If they have to hire you on a part-time or contract basis to keep their costs down, they will. And that's happening more frequently now due to the instability of the market. This new reality means taking the emotion out of business and doing what's best for your business-of-one. Folks like Lisa undestand they work with companies, not for them. She is free to build a career that ensures she is employable and it taking a proactive approach to do so.
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 3:26 pm
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:32 pm to volod
I'm pretty loyal when I'm working for a company I like?
Are you building up the case for why you are quitting already?
Are you building up the case for why you are quitting already?
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:33 pm to volod
quote:
When did you stop being loyal?
When they made it obvious they didn't respect me or appreciate my work.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:34 pm to volod
I don't find it a problem at all. It's a two way street, if a company can tell me to take a hike at the drop of the hat, why should I treat them any better.
If the company did something to earn my loyalty, I would think differently. But most companies don't. In reality you are just a percentage of the G&A and if they need to cut you to keep share holders happy, they will in a heartbeat and then brag about reducing G&A.
If the company did something to earn my loyalty, I would think differently. But most companies don't. In reality you are just a percentage of the G&A and if they need to cut you to keep share holders happy, they will in a heartbeat and then brag about reducing G&A.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:36 pm to volod
I thought you were going to boot camp. Or getting your PhD in astrophysics. Or becoming a fireman.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:36 pm to WavinWilly
My company is not even remotely loyal to me. And I own it.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:37 pm to volod
Ultimately you must bring in more than you cost.
And ultimately you want to keep as much of what you bring in as you can.
Everything else is a game of chicken.
And ultimately you want to keep as much of what you bring in as you can.
Everything else is a game of chicken.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:37 pm to volod
I felt a loyalty at my first ever job and stayed there a while. Many years later I realize loyalty doesn't exist much in business, especially the larger the company.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:37 pm to volod
The business of business is business
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:44 pm to volod
From the article;
My end game has always been working for myself. I never really felt loyal because of this but I always made sure I was a good, productive, dependable employee until I left to start my own business. I never envisioned working for someone until retirement
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Lisa is also 34 with a Bachelors degree. However, Lisa is tired of working "for" employers. Now, she isn't ready to start her own company, but she does want to find a way to feel in control of her career.
My end game has always been working for myself. I never really felt loyal because of this but I always made sure I was a good, productive, dependable employee until I left to start my own business. I never envisioned working for someone until retirement
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:45 pm to volod
Loyalty is more than just them keeping you employed. Are they paying you alt least what it would take to hire someone to replace you?
The reality is, you are going to get the biggest bump in salary when you change jobs, so it's in your best interest to not be loyal.
The reality is, you are going to get the biggest bump in salary when you change jobs, so it's in your best interest to not be loyal.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:47 pm to volod
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When did you stop being loyal?
When I signed the paperwork to start working here.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:47 pm to volod
I know people who were nervous about taking a new (better) job because they felt loyal to the company. They were scared to tell their boss too. 
I liked my old job and my boss there was one of the greatest people I have ever met, but when I got my current job I walked in his office and gave my notice without a second thought.
I liked my old job and my boss there was one of the greatest people I have ever met, but when I got my current job I walked in his office and gave my notice without a second thought.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:48 pm to volod
shite i'm "at-will" and i own the company
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:49 pm to volod
Loyalty is definitely a 2 way street. If the company just sees its employees as a means to an end, and feels any of them can be replaced, why should the employee be loyal to them?
I worked for a company like that. Loyalty goes as long as they actually value you. Once you have no value to them, that's it. Loyalty doesn't exist after that.
I worked for a company like that. Loyalty goes as long as they actually value you. Once you have no value to them, that's it. Loyalty doesn't exist after that.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:49 pm to volod
I have a loyalty to my profession/professionalism and self pride. As long as I maintain that loyalty, the employer is just fine. As for the people that work for me though, they better toe the line, work for cheap, or GTFO!!!
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:56 pm to volod
I don't feel like any employer is doing me a favor by hiring me. I think a lot of people who are older and may not have had skills or an education before they started working at their job feel like the employer is doing them a favor.
For me, it's a two way street, I offer them something (the work I perform) and they offer me something (money, benefits, flexibility, etc...). If my work didn't outweigh what they offered me, they wouldn't keep me around. If someone else is willing to offer me a better package, then I'm a fool if I don't take it.
My field might not be the same as most though, many people work contract work as consultants for 6-12 months at a time.
For me, it's a two way street, I offer them something (the work I perform) and they offer me something (money, benefits, flexibility, etc...). If my work didn't outweigh what they offered me, they wouldn't keep me around. If someone else is willing to offer me a better package, then I'm a fool if I don't take it.
My field might not be the same as most though, many people work contract work as consultants for 6-12 months at a time.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 4:08 pm to volod
If I were to take a new job, I would be much more concerned with how it affected the people I work with on a daily basis than I would be how it affected the owners.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 4:09 pm to volod
Posted on 4/5/17 at 4:10 pm to volod
I'm not loyal to my company per say. I'm loyal to some of the people I work with within my company, as well as my direct manager, who is just overall a great boss and human being. If he were to be let go, I'd very much consider leaving as well.
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