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re: Public GT school v/s Private school in BR advice needed.

Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:44 pm to
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The GT program in BR is great. I'd still be afraid of potential interaction with trash.

Those kids are basically sequestered from the gen pop.
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:46 pm to
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Is one G/T program better than the other? Wildwood had decent reviews compared to the others. Lasalle and another school (can't remember) had openings and was also an option.

I'm afraid I'm not much help there.
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:56 pm to
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Those kids are basically sequestered from the gen pop.




yup.....imho GT is a no brainer. Educational curriculum challenges the kids....more so than private schools and yearly cost savings can be applied to college tuition if needed.
Posted by ALLin4LSU
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:57 pm to
I would only consider magnet in EBR. I only have friends with kids at Westdale and that school is pretty fabulous. We applied there as a backup plan for my youngest if she didn't get into U-High and we really had to take some time to think about it before passing on Westdale.

From what I understand from friends with kids in the magnet programs they are very happy with elementary and high school but middle school is iffy.

I was glad to see the EBR teacher say he/she would have no reservations about putting his/her child in the system now. I taught in EBR in the late 90s and I said then my kids would never go into EBR programs because I didn't trust the school board and/or outside forces not to come in screw things up.

ETA: my neighbors kids all went to St. Jude and they couldn't speak more highly of it.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:04 pm to
I went to EBR GT programs in the early years and can honestly say it was a huge difference in my childhood. Being around other kids who could challenge me academically was enormously helpful. Do it.
Posted by ALLin4LSU
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:05 pm to
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Those kids are basically sequestered from the gen pop.

Really? I wouldn't have thought that from some of the things I've been told. Some of the complaints were lunch breaks, class changes and restroom breaks. It would change my opinion, if so.
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:08 pm to
Just know the difference between a 'self-contained' Gifted program and a 'resource' gifted. LaSalle Elementary, for example, is self contained so gifted are completely segregated from the general population for classroom instruction.

Resource may mean some classes are shared with regular students or your child will be pulled out of a regular class to attend a gifted class.

Some schools have BOTH self-contained and gifted.

Overall the gifted self-contained are very solid. Problem is that they are within a possibly less than desirable school (general pop) on the whole. Make sure to meet with the principle of the school as well.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:09 pm to
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Either go private, or move to zackary, central, or out of Parrish.


Well we see one that didn't make the gifted and talented.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:13 pm to
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Really? I wouldn't have thought that from some of the things I've been told. Some of the complaints were lunch breaks, class changes and restroom breaks. It would change my opinion, if so.



There is minimal interaction, but not when it matters (in the classroom)

For reference, I was in honors in high school and in 4 years the only time I saw some of my teammates on campus was in the gym. I never even saw them.

The interaction with the gen pop is also benefitial and will keep your kids from growing up in a bubble. College was a real shock to some of my friends who went pre-k-12th at a private school.
Posted by djangochained
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:14 pm to
Your a male teacher?
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:18 pm to
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We applied there as a backup plan for my youngest if she didn't get into U-High and we really had to take some time to think about it before passing on Westdale.


Yeah, U-High is probably better from a long term perspective since you don't have to worry about where your kid goes to middle and high school, but Westdale is a very special school. Plus you still have to pay like 5-6,000 for U-High right?

I've also heard very good things about Mayfair starting to shape into the next Westdale.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:20 pm to
U High or bust.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:20 pm to
Mine were at Westdale academic magnet , Sherwood Middle and BRMHS. It's a great path to choose and you can then max out their college funds . I give Wham and BRMHS the highest recommendation and Sherwood Middle better than average marks. They will be around a LOT of really really bright kids. And very little social pressure compared to private school.
Posted by Odinson
Asgard
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:24 pm to
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Just know the difference between a 'self-contained' Gifted program and a 'resource' gifted. LaSalle Elementary, for example, is self contained so gifted are completely segregated from the general population for classroom instruction. Resource may mean some classes are shared with regular students or your child will be pulled out of a regular class to attend a gifted class.



She was able to score high enough to be in the all day program. If it was the 'resource' program where they just pull you out for 30-60 minutes a day, I would definitely pass on that option.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:26 pm to
Is Mrs. Crawford still the principal at Sherwood Middle?
Posted by Odinson
Asgard
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:28 pm to
No luck with the Magnet lottery system. We only listed one school.
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
417 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:30 pm to
LaSalle isn't bad overall. We were going to put the boy there, but he got into Westdale. Keep in mind that public schools can't really compete with private because most private schools are k-8. So they will have a FT Nurse on staff, FT guidance, better computer lab, science lab, security, etc.

Eventually, you probably want to get the kid into Magnet because that is where the resources are. GT really get the short end of the stick sometimes. But class room settings, teaching is great.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:54 pm to
Coachchappy is on point with views on GT. Agree wholeheartedly.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 6:01 pm to
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Those kids are basically sequestered from the gen pop.


It's been years, and I wasn't in BR, but GT is nothing special. I was GT from 4th grade until junior year when I realized I hated it. Went into regular honors classes and learned much more. It may be different there and/or now, but you were not competely separated from other classes....only a few subjects per year. You still interacted with other students (or else I would have quit years before as they're were only 3 or 4 normal GT kids in the whole school). It was not a better education and in terms of surrounding yourself with like minded, driven students with good family backing, it still falls short of private school.

I would never send my kid to public school in LA if I could afford a decent private school.

Eta: see from other posts that some programs are completely separate. I'd still go private since in those cases, you'd be sticking your kids in a class of 10 or so children. Seems socially detrimental. I know for a fact the program I was in sucked, but it's take a lot more for me to think it was truly worth it after my personal experience.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 6:08 pm
Posted by ALLin4LSU
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 6:02 pm to
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Plus you still have to pay like 5-6,000 for U-High right

We do but I can say without hesitation that I've never once regretted that decision. While I agree with you that Westdale is a special school, I feel the same about UHS.

What it comes down to is everyone has to do what's best for their family. For example, if you have a son who wants to play football he can't do that at BRH.

If you have a child who is intensely focused on school and prefers more academically oriented clubs or activities, he/she might prefer the environment of BRHS.

I'm not saying either is a reason to choose a specific school but there are lots of factors that can influence your decision.

As for kids growing up in a bubble I can only speak for UHS but, while predominantly white, my kids have lots of friends and classmates with diverse backgrounds.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 6:08 pm
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