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re: PSA for OT sleuths: Casey Anthony 3 part special begins on ID channel at 9 CT
Posted on 4/12/17 at 5:36 pm to HoustonChick86
Posted on 4/12/17 at 5:36 pm to HoustonChick86
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Watching this is upsetting, as its so obvious she killed her daughter. I wish she could be tried on other charges and receive a proper punishment for what she did.
I agree, but frankly, I kind of understand the difficulty of the jurors to convict moreso after watching this.
The when, where, how and why are still largely mysteries to this day. As apparent as Casey's guilt is, those are a lot of gaps to fill between her and her dead little girl.
That said, it's making me question how much doubt is enough to qualify as reasonable doubt.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 6:09 pm to nvasil1
The only thing I could possibly allow in letting her off, is that the prosecution could not prove it was her that killed her vs. some type of accidental death and a botched cover up of either her or her folks.
She obviously was involved to a large degree, therefore should serve some type of serious punishment. I wish she would have been able to at least get a manslaughter conviction.
She obviously was involved to a large degree, therefore should serve some type of serious punishment. I wish she would have been able to at least get a manslaughter conviction.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 7:55 pm to East Coast Band
Just watched it. That's one sick count. How the F did the jury let her walk. 31 days before you look for your child?? Disgusting
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:18 pm to East Coast Band
is she still hot?
she kinda looks like that crazy chick from sons of anarchy that had jax's kid
she kinda looks like that crazy chick from sons of anarchy that had jax's kid
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:44 pm to East Coast Band
The debate isn't whether or not she killed her daughter -- she obviously did -- the debate is whether or not the prosecution proved it. They didn't.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:27 pm to Arkla Missy
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And the fact that her parents are colossal pieces of shite as well.
Yeah, I don't get this opinion at all. They are tremendously sympathetic, especially the dad. My heart was breaking for him that last episode.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:32 pm to I am GLORIOUS
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The debate isn't whether or not she killed her daughter -- she obviously did -- the debate is whether or not the prosecution proved it. They didn't.
The prosecution only has to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. The only testimony to counter the argument that she did it was a wild accusation against her father. All of the circumstantial evidence pointed at her. If I were on the jury I would not have hesitated to convict.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:45 pm to Tigertracks
1st degree murder - They couldn't prove
Manslaughter - Not guilty. OK they could have convicted her of this IMO.
Child Abuse - How in the hell she was found not guilty of child abuse blows my mind!
Manslaughter - Not guilty. OK they could have convicted her of this IMO.
Child Abuse - How in the hell she was found not guilty of child abuse blows my mind!
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 1:17 am to SmackDaniels
After watching the entire 3-hour program, there is no doubt, reasonable or otherwise, in my mind that Casey Anthony murdered Caylee, and that it was premeditated. The compilation of evidence is truly overwhelming, and undoubtedly proves her guilt, imo. Even though her defense attorney attempted to pick away at the individual pieces of evidence by showing what might be possible, in each case, I found the prosecution's explanations to be the much more probable ones; the prosecution's case just made more sense, and was much more likely, particularly taken together as a whole. If I had been a juror and couldn't convince the others of her guilt, I believe I would've hung the jury. I just don't believe I could have, in all good conscience, found her not guilty of first degree murder & pretty much every other charge. And besides her unforgivable actions in re her daughter, what she did to her father was abominable as well.
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Posted on 4/16/17 at 6:50 am to Arkla Missy
Florida now has a law where it is a crime to not report a missing child right away. This is because of that case.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:29 am to Arkla Missy
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After watching the entire 3-hour program, there is no doubt, reasonable or otherwise, in my mind that Casey Anthony murdered Caylee, and that it was premeditated.
She was 100% responsible. Was it first degree murder? That's a bit of a stretch with the evidence. It could've easily been an accident similar to what her father said. The duct tape does indeed indicate it was some form of homicide but that's the only real evidence pointing to premeditation. I don't know that 1st degree murder should've ever been the charge. The not guilty on other charges show the jurors incompetence.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 7:30 am
Posted on 4/16/17 at 12:33 pm to Jabstep
The duct tape has always been the key to me. That tells me there was nothing accidental about it, no overdose, no swimming pool, none of that BS. She killed her then let her rot in the trunk for a month while she partied, and was too stupid to think of any way to get away with it. She basically had the perfect murder and perfect defense, as sick as that sounds. She's the mother so any DNA, hair evidence, etc is obviously explained, and there was enough what and when for reasonable doubt. Between watching this and the OJ thing you can see why DAs are politicians first and lawyers second.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 12:58 pm to EyeTwentyNole
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The duct tape has always been the key to me. That tells me there was nothing accidental about it, no overdose, no swimming pool, none of that BS
Exactly. That one piece of tape is the smoking gun. ... And I lol'd at the defense "expert" who talked about the lack of DNA on that tape. Hahaha, well, considering how long Caylee's remains were left in the woods during a FL summer, and the fact that there was such degradation of those remains to the degree that there was literally only a skeleton left, no doubt, any DNA on that tape from her & the perp (Casey) would also be gone. After all, that DNA which was no doubt at one time on the tape was made up of skin cells, which obviously degrade when left to the elements for months, especially in FL heat & humidity. This defense expert's stance was absurd; he literally said that even though Caylee's body had degraded so much because of time & elements, there still should magically be some DNA on that tape, regardless that the DNA was comprised of the same & similar skin cells and left in the same outdoor location for the same amount of time as Caylee's body. Orly??? Yeah, pretty positive the DNA on the tape degraded just as Caylee's remains did; there's nothing special about that. Now, if there had been DNA on that tape, THAT would've been fishy, & I would deduce the tape had been put there well after Caylee died. That "expert's" stance on the absence of DNA on the tape was laughable.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 2:06 pm to Arkla Missy
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Even though her defense attorney attempted to pick away at the individual pieces of evidence by showing what might be possible, in each case, I found the prosecution's explanations to be the much more probable ones
It's not the prosecution's job to present evidence that makes their story more probable than the defense's story. Their burden is to remove all reasonable doubt. If you are saying that you feel the defense gave an alternative theory that you believe is possible (your words) and the prosecution can't disprove that theory, you should be voting to acquit.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 2:12 pm to Tigerbait357
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Also her she googled about chloroform which was found in her trunk. Then the mom randomly stepped in and claimed she googled it because a dog ate some plant which we all knee was BS
Since chloroform is a mainstay in every vets' office.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:04 pm to nvasil1
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My lasting memories are basically of Casey's partying photos and Nancy Grace shrieking daily.
I am convinced Nancy Grace and her constant screeching got Anthony off in some way. Had to be one juror on that panel that just hated Nancy's face and the way she droned.
I know I for one wanted an acquittal a little bit. Just to see graces head explode.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:13 pm to medtiger
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If you are saying that you feel the defense gave an alternative theory that you believe is possible (your words) and the prosecution can't disprove that theory, you should be voting to acquit.
Yes, I'm well aware of what the prosecution's burden is, but just because the defense offers a possible explanation does not mean that it is probable or reasonable. Most anything is possible, but not all of those possibilities are likely or reasonable. It's a juror's job to decide what is reasonable or not. The defense offered absolutely nothing reasonable to explain the presence of duct tape on Caylee's remains which was covering the area of her nose & mouth. As a matter of fact, the defense "expert witness" inadvertently literally supported the prosecution's theory that the tape was applied to Caylee before she died by pointing out the absence of DNA from that tape. Although he was attempting to twist that fact to say that DNA should have been present on the tape, what the absence of DNA reasonably proved is that it obviously degraded at the same rate as Caylee's remains because the tape was on her, exposed to the same elements, for the same amount of time that Caylee's body was. Had there been DNA on the tape, that would have proven just the opposite- that the tape had been applied well after Caylee died & well after her body was left in the woods. That is not only reasonable & logical, it is simply scientific fact.
The prosecution's compilation of evidence was absolutely overwhelming and the most reasonable explanation of what truly happened, so much so that to completely disregard it is unreasonable. Any one piece of it would have been enough to convict, particularly the duct tape which absolutely supports premeditation, and put together, along with Casey's incessant lying, as well as her mother's obvious lies in re the 911 call pertaining to the "dead body" odor in Casey's car & her changing her story on the stand to "a bag of garbage" odor, not to mention her lying about the chloroform google search, is incredibly strong. Also, there was nothing to support the defense 'story' of a swimming pool drowning or that Casey's father hid Caylee's body, or that he molested Casey, a claim which was made during opening statements to the jury, but was proven to be absolute bullshite since the defense offered not one ounce of evidence of it during trial. That huge omission by the defense should have been glaringly obvious to the jury that it was fabricated by the defense. Evidently, the jury, for whatever reason(s), was absolutely looking to acquit, and this is especially obvious because of the 'not guilty' verdicts on any one of the more serious felony charges.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:22 pm to Arkla Missy
Anyone know the back story on baby daddy? Who he is? Why was he never mentioned? If he paid child support, etc...
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:22 pm to Kcrad
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quote: Also her she googled about chloroform which was found in her trunk. Then the mom randomly stepped in and claimed she googled it because a dog ate some plant which we all knee was BS
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Since chloroform is a mainstay in every vets' office.
And the jury completely disregarded the fact that Casey's mother was at work, according to her time card, when those google searches for chloroform were done, obviously proving that the mother lied on the stand.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:24 pm to SmackDaniels
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Anyone know the back story on baby daddy? Who he is? Why was he never mentioned? If he paid child support, etc...
I was wondering the same thing. I don't think much has been said about him at all. Evidently he wasn't involved in Caylee's life.
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