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re: Prestigious Colleges Won't Make You Happier In Life Or Work
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:00 pm to yellowfin
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:00 pm to yellowfin
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I disagree.....especially for upper management
Most employers are looking at work history and reputation for upper management hires. The university attended was at the bottom of my list when hiring for a top spot.
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:01 pm to DanTiger
Of course everyone on the OT has hired upper management 
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:06 pm to yellowfin
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Of course everyone on the OT has hired upper management
That depends on the size of the firm. If a firm has under 100 employees many people are involved in the hiring decisions of top level executives. If you are talking about Fortune 500 companies it is much less likely that any here have been involved in such a decision.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:10 pm to DanTiger
I'm talking positions that you get by interviewing with the board of directors...not mom and pops
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:11 pm to yellowfin
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I'm talking positions that you get by interviewing with the board of directors...not mom and pops
Most smaller firms, at least in the field of finance, have a board of directors.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sounds plausible to me based on incremental enjoyment and contextual expectations.
You're elated about getting accepted into the school and probably remain so for a while but after the novelty wears off it's just school.
Similar in a way, after the novelty wears off your expectations shift upward such that a job or career path that would have made pre-Ivy League you motivated and feeling successful makes the post Ivy League you feel mediocre or even inadequate.
You're elated about getting accepted into the school and probably remain so for a while but after the novelty wears off it's just school.
Similar in a way, after the novelty wears off your expectations shift upward such that a job or career path that would have made pre-Ivy League you motivated and feeling successful makes the post Ivy League you feel mediocre or even inadequate.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:25 pm to Dr. Shultz
I pulled the numbers off of the internet, either on their websites, or from another website. That was complete cost(tuition and fees) for an incoming freshman from out of state
FTR, she has an average ACT(26), an average SAT(can't remember score), a 3.65gpa, is loaded with extracurriculars(started clubs, pres of SG and a few others, sports), and is going to a good school in New Orleans also. Expensive private school kids all like to go out of state from the people I've known, and kids I have seen recently. She should be able to get a decent amount of scholarships, and once you get into your specific college, they also have grants on top of that.
For what she is trying to do, a state school wouldn't do as well as a private school when applying
FTR, she has an average ACT(26), an average SAT(can't remember score), a 3.65gpa, is loaded with extracurriculars(started clubs, pres of SG and a few others, sports), and is going to a good school in New Orleans also. Expensive private school kids all like to go out of state from the people I've known, and kids I have seen recently. She should be able to get a decent amount of scholarships, and once you get into your specific college, they also have grants on top of that.
For what she is trying to do, a state school wouldn't do as well as a private school when applying
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Little fish in big pond vs. Big fish in little pond
Academically I was the latter for most of my education (and feel I am better off professionally because of it)
Gladwell presents an interesting view in "David and Goliath"
He also extrapolates on how this very logic is why affirmative action may be hindering the people that it is trying to help.
Academically I was the latter for most of my education (and feel I am better off professionally because of it)
Gladwell presents an interesting view in "David and Goliath"
He also extrapolates on how this very logic is why affirmative action may be hindering the people that it is trying to help.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:26 pm to kingbob
I think one of the prestigious colleges' major benefits are all about the connections you make. Like your fraternity brother's dad is a hedge fund manager at an Ivy League, while at LSU he might be vice president of an oil exploration company. If going into finance, obvious choice would be Ivy league.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:32 pm to MDcajuntiger
People recognize & are impressed by Harvard & Yale everywhere in the country, even Baton Rouge. Columbia or Dartmouth? Maybe less so.
Anyway I know a lot of these people. The impression I get is that they assume that the Ivy League cachet is far more powerful outside the Northeast than it actually is.
But what really confounds me are people who go to these Ivy wannabes, paying exorbitant prices for schools with no particular name recognition outside the city they're located in.
Anyway I know a lot of these people. The impression I get is that they assume that the Ivy League cachet is far more powerful outside the Northeast than it actually is.
But what really confounds me are people who go to these Ivy wannabes, paying exorbitant prices for schools with no particular name recognition outside the city they're located in.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:38 pm to Cold Cous Cous
Some are well known in very specific fields, like a photography school will be known by people who make magazines, but no one else in the world will know about it. The rest of their programs could be meh, but they go there for photography
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
M'fricking this!
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:43 pm to jmcs68
Still trying to convince yourself about Nicholls huh?
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:47 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
Yep
I don't want him to go TM.
LSU would at least allow him to live at home.
I don't want him to go TM.
LSU would at least allow him to live at home.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:48 pm to jmcs68
Nicholls isn't a bad school, contrary to the OT's expert opinion.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:49 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
I think it's going to be a perfect fit for him.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:04 pm to Hammertime
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FTR, she has an average ACT(26), an average SAT(can't remember score), a 3.65gpa, is loaded with extracurriculars(started clubs, pres of SG and a few others, sports), and is going to a good school in New Orleans also.
Ok so we can rule out ivies in the discussion then.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:23 pm to reb13
She's a junior, so there is still time to bring up the ACT and SAT grades. Sort of just figuring things out right now, but she is not going to business, engineering, medical, or law school. More specific stuff related to what she wants to do when she gets older, and we've been expressing to her that big-name schools don't automatically mean the programs she is looking at are worth a damn
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:54 pm to Hammertime
26 is gonna be tough to bring up enough to get into a top 100 but good luck.
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