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Power + Prejudice + Action = Racism

Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by Poncho
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:47 am
I got into a discussion with a gentleman (AA) this morning about discrimination/racism in the South, and he dropped this reasoning on me:

Racism = Power + Prejudice + Action

He then proceeded to tell me that by his rationale, white people are the only ones who can be racist, because "through privilege, we are the only ones who hold power to deprive those we subjugate".

One more thing I found curious, he was also talking about the definition of race, and how he could identify himself as African American because, although he had never been to Africa, he has African ancestry (or at least he thinks he does). I asked him if I could identify as German/English American, and he said "No, it doesn't work that way"

How has the OT dealt with these deep conversations before?
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6758 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:49 am to
I had a guy I worked with tell me that black people would live for thousands of years if it wasn't for white people. Some folks are just a bit off.
Posted by Motorboat
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Member since Oct 2007
22681 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:49 am to
quote:

How has the OT dealt with these deep conversations before?


People have these conversations? I'm too scared.
Posted by Schwartz
Member since Nov 2006
27097 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:49 am to
quote:

How has the OT dealt with these deep conversations before?



Walking the frick away.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:49 am to
I generally avoid them at all costs
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55448 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:50 am to
quote:

How has the OT dealt with these deep conversations before?



Laughing at the misery of others.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64541 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:52 am to
Here's how you should have handled this....

Step 1


Step 2
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:53 am to
Well I'd take issue with how he defines racism. Only one of those elements is really required for racism: prejudice. Power and action are elements that enable a racist (prejudiced) person to harm others, but they are not necessary for a person to be a racist.

So he's just wrong if you define racism in the way it's commonly understood.

Using his very narrow, specific, and IMO ridiculous definition of racism, he's a little less wrong in his other conclusions, but he's still very wrong.

But having a conversation with this guy sounds like it might be fruitless in the end. I'd still try because I find it hard to walk away from an argument.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 9:54 am
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:53 am to
quote:

AA

not sure how you would know he's AA unless he told you he is from africa. maybe he's just a black american?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:54 am to
quote:

not sure how you would know he's AA unless he told you he is from africa. maybe he's just a black american?
this was addressed in the OP
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:58 am to
quote:

this was addressed in the OP

I got triggered before I made it that far. apologies.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:59 am to
frick that guy
Posted by Skinner
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
352 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:08 am to
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This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 6:47 am
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16918 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:08 am to
The funny thing about the word racism, is it appears to be the only word in the English language that we allow to be arbitrarily defined by anyone at anytime, so it means everything and nothing at the same time. It is fricking absurd.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 10:09 am
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26638 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:10 am to
Your friend is a racist - plain and simple.

He, and others like him, use HIS definition of racism to excuse bad behavior by minorities while holding white people responsible for that very same behavior.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7806 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:10 am to
I used to work with a guy who had a tattoo of Africa on his arm. I asked him if he would tattoo a photo of his mother if she had sold him to another family. he got pissed and said I was an idiot and didn't know history at all.

oh well...........
Posted by 1935 MBB Champions
Member since Jan 2016
31 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:13 am to
Poor white with 25 act and poor black with 24 act. If affirmative action college chooses black then the black has racist over the white.

Racism is a case by case basis.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:17 am to
If you disagree with him, he'll yell at you for being a racist. If you agree with him, he'll still yell at you for being a racist.

Just walk away
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56331 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Racism = Power + Prejudice + Action

He then proceeded to tell me that by his rationale, white people are the only ones who can be racist, because "through privilege, we are the only ones who hold power to deprive those we subjugate".
That's the modern, leftist re-defined parameter of "racism" and it's bullshite.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:23 am to
His definition of racism is correct. You can be prejudiced or bigoted no matter what your race, but only those in power can be racist.

This has been proven in sociological studies.
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