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re: Popular Youtubers take new turbo Toyota Tacoma off road; the truck immediately breaks down
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:27 pm to Clockwatcher68
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:27 pm to Clockwatcher68
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The OP will find that the only thing more fragile than the new Toyota Tacoma's front end is the ego of Toyota truck fanatics.
This turned out to be 100% true BTW.
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Those clowns probably went under that truck with a sawzall.
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The biggest scams in the Automotive Youtube arena
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this is one of the very first batches & they have done a ton with it already. I love Toyota/Lexus
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I hate youtubers so much
Toyota’s recent string of disappointing trucks will continue if their loyalist keep drinking the cool aid. Car buyers should not accept half baked designs or widespread manufacturing defects given how much vehicles costs these days.
Car companies pack their vehicles with expensive crap we never asked for at the behest of our shitty government bureaucrats. We want functional, fun, affordable, and reliable cars and trucks. Instead we get expensive features like small displacement turbo motors, aluminum bodies, 10 speed transmissions, cylinder deactivation, EGR coolers, direct injection, DPF systems, etc. All of it negatively impacts the longevity and the long term costs of ownership.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 7:48 pm
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:32 pm to member12
Even if this is over done for clicks, screw the Tacoma. What do we have to do to get the hilux here? The newer versions look good and are bad arse.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:40 pm to dewster
I’m a certified Toyota hater. I think their reliability reputation is way overstated and it’s not like you don’t pay a premium for it. You pay top dollar for a Toyota over the other jdm brands and the features and tech you get are like 10 years behind everyone else.
You can make the argument that the new features and tech are just more shite that can break. Sure fine. But you aren’t getting a discount in forgoing those features. Quite the opposite actually.
You can make the argument that the new features and tech are just more shite that can break. Sure fine. But you aren’t getting a discount in forgoing those features. Quite the opposite actually.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Create need by creating controversy.
Tfl does well enough not to fake anything.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:47 pm to member12
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But I don’t know anything about the I-5.
The goal was the power of a 6 and mpg of a 4.
The reality was the power of a 4 and mpg of a 6.
Realiable and thirsty.
The best mid sized truck... Ever. Bar none. The 2013-2018 nissan frontier.
Full size truck with a mid sized body.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:44 am to X123F45
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The best mid sized truck... Ever. Bar none. The 2013-2018 nissan frontier.
The new ones are pretty awesome. They have an old school NA V6. I really like their styling.
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Full size truck with a mid sized body.
That's the formula GM has taken with the Colorado. Engines, transmissions, axles, etc. are all from half ton trucks. It seems to work except the price is a little high and the MPG aren't great.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:24 am to member12
I'll keep my '08, which I brought new in Nov '07. 145K and never a single problem. TRD w/ off-road and towing package.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:34 am to dewster
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Car buyers should not accept half baked designs
People waiting for a hybrid GX550 just found this out. Pictures were just revealed showing a raised floor in the back that looks awful and thrown together.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:44 am to Free888
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People waiting for a hybrid GX550 just found this out. Pictures were just revealed showing a raised floor in the back that looks awful and thrown together.
They have to put the battery somewhere because they need the hybrid electric powertrain to meet power and emissions targets. Sucks that they messed up the design like that, but I do think the Lexus GX is otherwise a good design when Toyota really needed a win. It seems to have a more polished, nicer design than the new Land Cruiser without costing much more at all. It also has a much more powerful engine and comes with a better dealership experience.
I like the design of the Land Cruiser until I saw the price for them. I know the new Land Cruiser has cupholders/arm rests for a 3rd row that doesn't exists, which is just a cheap oversight IMO. But that's usually not an issue except that some of those will cost $75,000 +. For that price, I'd expect something more "finished" and not just a retro rig that is basically just a modernized 4Runner/FJ. $75,000 is Land Rover Defender money, and you can easily get the most loaded up Ford Bronco for that (other than the Raptor) and a very nice Wrangler Unlimited. I'm sure the worst Land Cruiser will outlast even the very best Defender or Bronco, but the Defender is far better quality from a design standpoint. The Jeep and the Bronco are absolute beasts off road too, with a lot of established aftermarket suppliers. I was expecting something closer in quality to the Mercedes G wagon or Land Rover Defender, but what we got seems to be sort of just a newer Toyota FJ - which isn't necessarily a bad thing except for the price that they are asking for them is damn high (you can see the price now on Toyota's website).
The new Sequoia is a legitimate mess. It not only inherited the weird design quirks of the pandemic-era Tundra design, but it somehow isn't as roomy or as useful as a Tahoe, Yukon, Expedition, or even the previous generation Sequoia. But it's also far too low to the ground and clearly not built for off roading so it's not a real replacement for the full sized Land Cruiser. It's barely competitive with the aging Ford Expedition, and it's pretty far behind the Yukon, Tahoe, or Suburban. The Ford will be redesigned next year and the next gen Nissan Armada is also coming into the picture soon too. To make things worse - Toyota has had some pretty high profile engine and turbo waste gate issues with the new 3.4L turbo motor, and there is a lot of complexity under the hood that will probably result in far higher costs to keep it running than what most Toyota buyers are accustomed to. All that for nominal increases in fuel economy.
It's just not clear where they were targeting the Sequoia in the market other than to the Toyota faithful. If that was their plan, it would have been easier for them to just rework the interior of the old one and gave it larger, modern screens but keep the rest of the design intact. I know I'd have preferred that design with more classic Toyota styling, independent rear suspension, and V8 powertrain. Like the Tundra, the Sequoia SUV seems like it needs to be updated already to fix some of their strange oversights.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 8:24 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:36 am to dewster
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Car companies pack their vehicles with expensive crap we never asked for at the behest of our shitty government bureaucrats. We want functional, fun, affordable, and reliable cars and trucks
The Mazda Miata and Jeep Wrangler are some of the rare holdouts. They seemed to have made "fun" their guiding principle and haven't lost sight of that. Neither are very practical though.
You also have some German convertibles, the Corvette, and Cadillac sports sedans that are awesome, but they are all very expensive now. And this is probably the last generation of some of those before they are either canceled or replaced with an even more expensive and less visceral electric vehicle.
Young men in their 20s have not seen their wages rise with inflation in the past 10 years. The economy has changed and the target audience for previously fun, cheap cars like the VW GTI, Mazda MX-5, or Subaru WRX has shrunken to almost nothing. Some of those cars will probably not be certified for the US market when they are redesigned.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:42 am to member12
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They had a really good, informative series on driving EVs across the country. They really highlighted the shortcomings of the charging network that isn't really discussed among the Tesla fanatics.
Some of those cannonball runs have exposed the shortcomings of EVs like the Hyundai Ionic, Ford Lightning, and Hummer. It seems like the hype for them deflated significantly after that. Companies like Mercedes, General Motors, Ford, and Hyundai have since extended their EV rollout schedule and redirected more $$ towards the next generation of ICE vehicles.
EV's make total sense for commuter cars and delivery vehicles that drive repeatable, predictable urban/suburban routes. That's why it's so weird that Ford and GM have put so much effort into their electric pickup trucks. Pickup drivers often don't have repeatable, predictable routes. That's the worst possible configuration for a first or second generation electric vehicle.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:09 am to goofball
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Sucks that they messed up the design like that, but I do think the Lexus GX is otherwise a good design when Toyota really needed a win.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the GX and have a deposit on the TT V-6 one. The hybrid solution just wasn’t well thought out, especially as it’s rumored that the hybrid won’t really add much in mpg due to the vehicle’s size and design (unlike the RX).
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:48 am to TROLA
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How many rangers you see out their these days
Not very many! Ford really delivered a very bland, milk-toast model last time. The new Ranger looks like an improvement, but doesn’t really stand out either. New Taco looks amazing & I’m quite positive that Toyota will work out the kinks very quickly.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:06 pm to goofball
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MPG aren't great.
Yeah, that's the trade off.
The driveline never wears out. It's never stressed. It's over built to a fault.
But the pump isn't your friend.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:35 am to member12
They just provided an update here.
Apparently it was a part in the front differential. Toyota told them the part is designed to fail under extreme stress, to protect the rest of the drive train. Toyota apparently agreed what they were doing shouldn’t fall under that category.
Apparently it was a part in the front differential. Toyota told them the part is designed to fail under extreme stress, to protect the rest of the drive train. Toyota apparently agreed what they were doing shouldn’t fall under that category.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:04 am to X123F45
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Yeah, that's the trade off.
The driveline never wears out. It's never stressed. It's over built to a fault.
But the pump isn't your friend.
You talking about the new Colorado?
I could live with that especially for the kind of output it produces. 430 lb ft of torque is above average for a half ton truck, and it's definitely overkill for a mid sized truck. That's naturally aspirated V8 levels of torque.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:05 am to Free888
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Apparently it was a part in the front differential.
They make front diffs out of the cheapest aluminum they can find these days. The rear diff is almost certainly more robust.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:13 am to Free888
These people are morons. The fact neither front tire was active in the first vid says it’s not single a hub, not a cv axle and is central to the Front drive. Prob the shift fork sleeve or clutch.
That engine sounds like shite, too.
That engine sounds like shite, too.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:04 am to X123F45
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The best mid sized truck... Ever. Bar none. The 2013-2018 nissan frontier.
Approaching 200k on my 2014 Frontier crew cab. Been on the fence as to what to go with once it dies.
I like the design of the new Frontiers, but also want a little more space in the backseats, which the Colorado/Canyon has. Tacomas have always been appealing, too.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:15 am to John Casey
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I like the design of the new Frontiers, but also want a little more space in the backseats, which the Colorado/Canyon has. Tacomas have always been appealing, too.
If you have a need for rear facing child seats, the Frontier and Ranger are damn tight. Even the new Tacoma is going to be tight.
They make car seats so massive these days. I understand why but it's becoming challenging to fit the rear facing models in some cars.
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