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Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:32 am to
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:32 am to
I don't know , I keep reading so much and everybody has an opinion.

I've swam in both and chlorine has never bothered me.
I do like the softer water though.


Keeping it clear the vast majority of the time is my main objective .

I've had 2 pools and at times it was hard to keep it clear.
I think it wAs bc I truly didn't know what I was doing adding chlorine.
I've read using chlorox accomplishes the same thing as chlorine.
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3858 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:35 am to
Yea its all a matter of learning.

I can now go out and "taste" the water, or splash and smell the water and I can get a good idea of the salt, and chlorine level.

Yea, fire away, but its true.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:41 am to
Which do you prefer?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59460 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Salt or chlorine?
Doing a pool now, haven't decided which I'm going with.

Depends on where you live, what type of pool(custom, liner, fiberglass), location, decking, etc. There's a lot of factors that should go into the decision.

Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:57 am to
quote:

splash and smell the water and I can get a good idea of the salt, and chlorine level.


As a side note if you are you standing near a pool and smell chlorine that is a sign of a poorly maintained pool. It is essentially chlorine escaping due to chloramines. Pools with a salt chlorine generator rarely ever have chloramine issues.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:01 am to
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I've read using chlorox accomplishes the same thing as chlorine.


That is correct. As long as it does not have any additives. I saw someone add Clorox Outdoor to a pool and they destroyed the chemistry. The issue with household bleach I'd that it is very weak at about 5% sodium hypochlorite.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:04 am to
I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Money isn't the issue, I just want it to be consistent.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27171 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:18 pm to
Does anyone have experience with an ozone system for their pool?
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:37 pm to
Never heard if of it Freddy.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9493 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:08 pm to
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ozone system

Mine quit working within 2 yrs of my pool installation. The company doesn't even install them anymore. So it's probably a BS piece of equipment some greenies were able to sell.
Posted by Tampa Tiger
Fl.
Member since Nov 2006
663 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:40 pm to
I installed a Variable Speed Pump 5 years ago and haven't had any problems with it.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Does anyone have experience with an ozone system for their pool?



quote:

Mine quit working within 2 yrs of my pool installation. The company doesn't even install them anymore. So it's probably a BS piece of equipment some greenies were able to sell.



It will reduce the amount of chlorine needed. An ozone system using UV light is garbage. If you do ozone you'll want one that is based off of corona discharge. I would recommend Del Ozone as a brand, they only make corona discharge units.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27171 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

I would recommend Del Ozone as a brand, they only make corona discharge units.


This is the brand that I have been looking at. The reviews seem to be pretty good.
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 2:49 pm to
Variable speed definitely helps with energy costs. The issue is the price of the variable speed vs. energy cost saved. If you rarely use your pool, like swim a couple times during the summer, the savings will definitely pay for the cost. If it's used every other day or every weekend, you need to run the pump more. You still save, but not as much. Another way to save yourself some money is to buy the pump yourself and have the pool man install it. Most pool companies charge a wicked markup on pumps and filters. It'll save you at least $100 if you buy the pump yourself.
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:07 pm to
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Salt or chlorine?


It depends on the use.
A saltwater pool is still a chlorine pool, it just has a less acidic chlorine and maintains a lower chlorine level. That's why the water's "softer" and you can open your eyes underwater.
The "downside" to saltwater pools is the amount it's used. leaves/grass, Sun tan lotion/oil, pee, your skin oil, the sun, all decrease the chlorine content of your pool. Which opens it up to algae and hazy water. Saltwater pools being about 10% chlorine (opposed to chlorine pools at 20-30%) can turn into bathwater after one pool party. If you have kids, and they're not off to college anytime soon, I'd go chlorine. Otherwise, you'll be fooling around with the pool a lot more than you want to.
If it's just you and the Mrs., then a saltwater is definitely the way to go.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

The "downside" to saltwater pools is the amount it's used. leaves/grass, Sun tan lotion/oil, pee, your skin oil, the sun, all decrease the chlorine content of your pool. Which opens it up to algae and hazy water. Saltwater pools being about 10% chlorine (opposed to chlorine pools at 20-30%) can turn into bathwater after one pool party.



This makes no sense. The 10% vs. 20/30% comment is not true nor does it make any sense. A chlorine pool with or without a salt chlorine generator is typically maintained at 1-3 ppm for residential use.

The other factor you mention is pee. When body fluids like sweat and pee mix with chlorine they create chloramines. Chloramines are a problem when used with traditional chlorine pools. However it is extremely rare to run across chloramine issues with a salt chlorine generator. As the water runs through the salt cell where the chlorine is generated chloramines are broken down and essentially destroyed.

If your system is properly sized there should be not issues of the salt chlorine generator not being able to maintain proper chlorine levels. However many people choose to go with poorly sized systems which certainly can cause issues. With any chlorine pool it is of great importance to maintain proper stabilizer levels to maintain the chlorine properly.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

This is the brand that I have been looking at. The reviews seem to be pretty good.



Del is the only manufacturer I would look at. They also have a hybrid ozone/salt chlorine generator that is on the market. It is the AutoPilot Co Pilot. They use the Del ozone equipment with it.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6251 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:24 pm to
I used a variable speed pump when I built my pool in 2007.

I can't tell you the savings, because I don't have one to compare it.

One thing to remember though, you have to have the rpm high enough to circulate water throughout your pool. If you have steps, decks, or other nooks, you need to have enough movement to stir that water also.

I have a Pentair. The control unit on it went out at about 1 year. I got Pentair to replace that part for free. It's been working well since.

Good luck.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6251 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Salt or chlorine?
Doing a pool now, haven't decided which I'm going with.


I understand your question. But do you?

The salt runs through a little device that makes chlorine.

So either of those choices is chlorine.

There are other choices, though.

I like my salty chlorine.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 4:15 pm to
We bought a home with a pool last summer ... owners had a salt system but changed at some point to a copper ion system. IDK what my husband does to it but I can tell you not much. It's looked great all winter. We just need to get the heater fixed!!
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