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re: Policeman suing after FREE coffee spils on him.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:16 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:16 am to boosiebadazz
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If the manufacturer of your truck made the steering so non-responsive or the brakes so weak that they presented an unreasonably dangerous risk of harm... sure.
But the manufacturer made it go faster than I could control so therefore I can sue.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:19 am to BilJ
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you give cops free shite to hang around your establishment, not really hard to figure out
Yeah I kind of feel like an idiot now. Didn't really think it through.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:25 am to wildtigercat93
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The water was almost 3 times the recommending heat because the manager wanted to make more coffee faster
Water boils at 210F. So it was 630F?
shite would have melted right thru that cup when poured.
Personally, i like my coffee hot. Not going to pay for lukewarm coffee.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:27 am to DosManos
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Yeah I kind of feel like an idiot now. Didn't really think it through.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:28 am to Wtodd
I understand you're trying to be cute, but you're out of your league with this logic stuff.
In the McDonald's case, the lady didn't make the coffee too hot. It was handed to her too hot. In your hypo, you made the truck go fast, not the manufacturer. If the manufacturer handed you a defective vehicle (bad steering/ brakes), then yes, they could and should he held liable.
In the McDonald's case, the lady didn't make the coffee too hot. It was handed to her too hot. In your hypo, you made the truck go fast, not the manufacturer. If the manufacturer handed you a defective vehicle (bad steering/ brakes), then yes, they could and should he held liable.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:34 am to boosiebadazz
NOT TRYING TO BE CUTE!!!
I completely understand that logic has no place in this country or in our judicial system BUT, you buy a hot cup of coffee, YOU spill it and then YOU sue because YOU spilled hot coffee on yourself & got burned.
My truck scenario is VALID and I'm not talking about defects.
We are a litigation nation; people want to get paid and do nothing for it.
I completely understand that logic has no place in this country or in our judicial system BUT, you buy a hot cup of coffee, YOU spill it and then YOU sue because YOU spilled hot coffee on yourself & got burned.
My truck scenario is VALID and I'm not talking about defects.
We are a litigation nation; people want to get paid and do nothing for it.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:35 am to Wtodd
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I completely understand that logic has no place in this country or in our judicial system BUT, you buy a hot cup of coffee, YOU spill it and then YOU sue because YOU spilled hot coffee on yourself & got burned.
No. The extreme heat of the coffee burned the lid off and spilled the coffee on the lady. That's the issue, she wasn't clumsy
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:36 am to Wtodd
There is hot coffee and then there is coffee hot enough to burn through the first three layers of your skin. I can't help you if you can't see a difference.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:37 am to boosiebadazz
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Liebeck was taken to the hospital, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[11] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (9 kg, nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her to 83 pounds (38 kg). After the hospital stay, Liebeck was cared for 3 weeks by her daughter.[12] Liebeck suffered permanent disfigurement after the incident and was partially disabled for up to two years afterwards.[13][14]
Just an old lady lookin for a quick buck
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:38 am to boosiebadazz
If you type slower he might catch up to your logic.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:44 am to wildtigercat93
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No. The extreme heat of the coffee burned the lid off and spilled the coffee on the lady. That's the issue, she wasn't clumsy
You asked for it
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A New Mexico civil jury awarded $2.86 million to plaintiff Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman who suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled hot coffee in her lap
What part of SHE SPILLED THE COFFEE IN HER OWN LAP DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:48 am to boosiebadazz
the tort reform crowd certainly made a lot of hay with that case. PI lawyers have put a lot of stuff out there justifying it too. I'd suggest the Wiki entry, which seems more middle of the road reporting on the case, with details not mentioned here. Interesting that $2.7 mill of the verdict was in punitives, which are not allowed here in LA.
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This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 11:50 am
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:51 am to Wtodd
jury found her 20% at fault for that.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:57 am to Sl4m
Setting aside the fact that he's a douche for suing over free coffee when he's too clumsy to not spill it on himself, I think this guy pointed out the real problem:
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by Sl4m: Our legal system encourages everyone to be a victim. It's the sad reality we live In.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:57 am to Mung
I don't disagree with other poster's assertion that we are an overly litigious society (you should hear some of the calls I get ), but I don't think the McDonald's hot coffee case is the best example of our overly litigious society.
The details, and especially why McDonald's kept the coffee that hot, certainly don't put it in the frivolous camp.
The details, and especially why McDonald's kept the coffee that hot, certainly don't put it in the frivolous camp.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:59 am to Wtodd
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What part of SHE SPILLED THE COFFEE IN HER OWN LAP DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????
This comment is the reason for our judicial system. While it certainly is flawed in many ways...it doesn't make a decision based on 1 fact. Just a few of the facts that you are obviously not aware of in the McDonald's case are that McDonald's was cited numerous times by government agencies for serving coffee at dangerous temperatures. There is documentation that stated McDonalds was acting in negligence and putting consumers and employees at risk due to them refusing to lower the temperature of their coffee.
Like the poster said earlier, McDonald's ignored all safety warnings in order to serve more coffee faster.
The documentary covering this lawsuit aired on HBO not too long ago. Watch it and I promise you that you will change your thinking. Ultimately it's about knowing more than just the punchline the papers report on. Simple minds read one sentence and then form an opinion.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:01 pm to jpggpj
Oh....and one more note about the lady vs. McDonalds...originally all she wanted was them to pay her medical bill....they refused.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:10 pm to jpggpj
In other news this cop is really being hit hard in police officer forums that I am a member of. He is being called a lot worse things by them than any of y'all have called him.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:12 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
Doesn't really surprise me that a bunch of cops wouldn't embrace the nuance and gray
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 12:13 pm
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