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Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:36 am to GumboDave
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Fine. You win. Dumb cops it is.
Dumb cops is the way the system works.
Smart cops would cause the system to collapse.
Cops are required to toe the party line: "just doing mah job". Without thinking about is this actually a crime? Is this something a person should be jailed, fined, their life now ruined? Is this worth children growing up without their parent in their life? Is this worth taking the breadwinner out of a household?
Cops are meant to go out there and enforce the laws written by the smart people (theoretically, whole lotta stupid in the legislative bodies too). Cops don't police thoughtfully, recognize and react is their training. Front lines requires that training. Be even more cops injured or worse if the smart go out and recognize, pause to process, then react.
Cops are really in a no win situation: Damned if they do, damned if they don't, and dead if they stop in the middle of situations to reason it all out.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:50 am to iamAG
Even shooting him or beating him with a baton would have been more reasonable than touching a flame to gasoline to prevent the guy from touching a flame to gasoline. At least shooting him he would die fast rather than being tortured to death.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:08 am to Peazey
My wife is on the team treating this guy. She said it's a bad scene. Over 90% of his body is 3rd degree burns. Worst yet, he's got a 50/50 shot of making it. Would be an awful rehabilitation
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:10 am to GumboDave
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The qualifications for being a police officer should really be raised.
The qualifications for posting should be raised as well
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:10 am to LNCHBOX
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What would you have done Mr Monday Morning QB?
Call the fire department to hose him down and pull out my phone to record him while I wait.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:27 am to junkfunky
What would you have done if while waiting on the fire department he attacks someone else and lights them on fire?
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:30 am to GEAUXT
They should have sprayed him with a water hose like you would do a dog that is doing wrong.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:49 am to Brazos
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If you douse yourself with gasoline then you should expect something bad to happen.
Bingo
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:50 am to iamAG
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What would you have done if while waiting on the fire department he attacks someone else and lights them on fire?
That's why I have my phone out recording.
It seems obvious the best way to handle the situation is to spray him with water so those super soakers with the backpack tank should become standard issue.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:53 am to GEAUXT
I will say that a police officer responded to a medical emergency in my family recently. Podunk town in BFE, the guy probably makes not much more than minimum wage when you factor in the hours. He was super competent and professional, and even stopped by the next day to see how my family member was doing.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:54 am to GumboDave
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Raise the pay and benefits along with the qualifications.
I don't think people realize how good cops have it. They aren't struggling. They make tons of OT and have a great pension plan. I think their pension is some where in the neighborhood of 80% of their average income the over the last 3 years...and I believe they qualify after 25 years of service.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:55 am to Topwater Trout
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I don't think people realize how good cops have it. They aren't struggling. They make tons of OT and have a great pension plan. I think their pension is some where in the neighborhood of 80% of their average income the over the last 3 years...and I believe they qualify after 25 years of service.
That is true in large departments. Smaller jurisdictions, not so much.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:05 pm to Jim Rockford
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That is true in large departments.
It's always amusing (frustrating) when they release the highest paid city workers each year in BR. Always a few cops working 2k hours of OT...that is almost impossible
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:48 pm to GumboDave
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So you think the plan they used was better? Which caused the man to be lit on fire?
Better? Yes. More entertaining? Oh hell yes.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:51 pm to LSUBoo
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Make some smores?
I laughed way too hard at this.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:19 pm to GEAUXT
This can happen with certain types of OC spray too. Keep that in mind if the cops mace you and you hear the phrase, "Taser, Taser, Taser!!!"
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:34 pm to Five0
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This can happen with certain types of OC spray too. Keep that in mind if the cops mace you and you hear the phrase, "Taser, Taser, Taser!!!"
So as an attorney/former cop, you're going on record as this being common knowledge?
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