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re: Police save suicidal man by setting him on fire

Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:08 am to
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:08 am to
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The qualifications for being a police officer should really be raised.

Gotcha Robocop.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67082 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:25 am to
Protect and Served!
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17164 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:36 am to
quote:


Fine. You win. Dumb cops it is.


Dumb cops is the way the system works.
Smart cops would cause the system to collapse.

Cops are required to toe the party line: "just doing mah job". Without thinking about is this actually a crime? Is this something a person should be jailed, fined, their life now ruined? Is this worth children growing up without their parent in their life? Is this worth taking the breadwinner out of a household?

Cops are meant to go out there and enforce the laws written by the smart people (theoretically, whole lotta stupid in the legislative bodies too). Cops don't police thoughtfully, recognize and react is their training. Front lines requires that training. Be even more cops injured or worse if the smart go out and recognize, pause to process, then react.

Cops are really in a no win situation: Damned if they do, damned if they don't, and dead if they stop in the middle of situations to reason it all out.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:50 am to
Even shooting him or beating him with a baton would have been more reasonable than touching a flame to gasoline to prevent the guy from touching a flame to gasoline. At least shooting him he would die fast rather than being tortured to death.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6059 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:08 am to
My wife is on the team treating this guy. She said it's a bad scene. Over 90% of his body is 3rd degree burns. Worst yet, he's got a 50/50 shot of making it. Would be an awful rehabilitation
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:10 am to
quote:

The qualifications for being a police officer should really be raised.


The qualifications for posting should be raised as well
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33891 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:10 am to
quote:

What would you have done Mr Monday Morning QB?


Call the fire department to hose him down and pull out my phone to record him while I wait.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:27 am to
What would you have done if while waiting on the fire department he attacks someone else and lights them on fire?
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66417 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:29 am to
Posted by FlagLake
"Da Ship"
Member since Feb 2006
2337 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:30 am to
They should have sprayed him with a water hose like you would do a dog that is doing wrong.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:49 am to
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If you douse yourself with gasoline then you should expect something bad to happen.


Bingo
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33891 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:50 am to
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What would you have done if while waiting on the fire department he attacks someone else and lights them on fire?


That's why I have my phone out recording.

It seems obvious the best way to handle the situation is to spray him with water so those super soakers with the backpack tank should become standard issue.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98184 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:53 am to
I will say that a police officer responded to a medical emergency in my family recently. Podunk town in BFE, the guy probably makes not much more than minimum wage when you factor in the hours. He was super competent and professional, and even stopped by the next day to see how my family member was doing.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:54 am to
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Raise the pay and benefits along with the qualifications.



I don't think people realize how good cops have it. They aren't struggling. They make tons of OT and have a great pension plan. I think their pension is some where in the neighborhood of 80% of their average income the over the last 3 years...and I believe they qualify after 25 years of service.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98184 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:55 am to
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I don't think people realize how good cops have it. They aren't struggling. They make tons of OT and have a great pension plan. I think their pension is some where in the neighborhood of 80% of their average income the over the last 3 years...and I believe they qualify after 25 years of service.


That is true in large departments. Smaller jurisdictions, not so much.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

That is true in large departments.


It's always amusing (frustrating) when they release the highest paid city workers each year in BR. Always a few cops working 2k hours of OT...that is almost impossible
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12715 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:48 pm to
quote:


So you think the plan they used was better? Which caused the man to be lit on fire?



Better? Yes. More entertaining? Oh hell yes.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48838 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:51 pm to
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Make some smores?


I laughed way too hard at this.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:19 pm to
This can happen with certain types of OC spray too. Keep that in mind if the cops mace you and you hear the phrase, "Taser, Taser, Taser!!!"
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17911 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

This can happen with certain types of OC spray too. Keep that in mind if the cops mace you and you hear the phrase, "Taser, Taser, Taser!!!"

So as an attorney/former cop, you're going on record as this being common knowledge?
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