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re: Philando Castile shooting dashcam video released - NSFW

Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger39
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 10:10 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Officer was found not guilty by a jury. Why keep arguing over it?


So was OJ
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20440 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:09 pm to
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Did he actually have MJ in his system, or was this one of those infamous "Well...I smell pot in here. You guys been smoking?" type situations?

Because, honestly...I don't give much credence to the old I smell pot stuff.


"Reynolds has acknowledged that she and Castile smoked marijuana shortly before the shooting, but as most cannabis users know, THC and other cannabinoids can remain in your body for a month or more after ingesting the plant or its derivatives. This same physiological fact makes testing for “weed DUI” a task fraught with scientific ambiguities."

Eta: above a quote from the link below

Not sure how reliable this source is
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Reynolds has acknowledged that she and Castile smoked marijuana shortly before the shooting, but as most cannabis users know, THC and other cannabinoids can remain in your body for a month or more after ingesting the plant or its derivatives.

Sure but it could give context as to PC's state of mind during the interaction and his ability to follow instructions.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Humans don't always respond rationally


true, especially the cop in this situation.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Yes, I did. I only clipped it because it was a long quote and the rest of it did not change the fact that you are making an assumption. I updated the quote so your feeling won't be so hurt.


It's not my feels that are hurt, it's my ability to have a discussion with you. If that's all you did, then I don't have anything more to add. We disagree, and I have no interest in trying to change your mind.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 4:14 pm to
We disagree on what? The definition of what an assumption is? I don't know how you can disagree on a fact, but Ok.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 4:28 pm to
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true, especially the cop in this situation.


The threat of possibly losing your life is an emotionally charged moment, no? Don't expect flawless, rational decisions from humans (particularly those who have a responsibility to intervene) under those circumstances.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 4:30 pm to
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Because it's not right, you fricking moron... Cops should not be near impossible to convince when they frick up.


Without a gun or an object that could have plausibly be mistaken for a gun, there might have been a different outcome. Why am I wrong?
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:01 pm to
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Because, honestly...I don't give much credence to the old I smell pot stuff.


I moved from Virginia Highlands area of the city (ATL Fulton Co) to the burbs OTP. I had 6 months to go until it was my birthday and time to renew my tags. I didn't want to pay twice that year so I left the Fulton Co plates on the car until it was time to re-register.

About 6 weeks after moving to the burbs, one morning we were out of coffee, so at 5am I drove out of my neighborhood two miles to the local gas station. On the way back a local cop followed me turning out of the gas station to my neighborhood entrance. As soon as I entered the neighborhood he turns in behind me and turns on his lights.

I hadn't done anything to get pulled over. He asks me if I know why I'm getting pulled over. I said, "No". He tells me I match a description of a suspect. I said I was not any suspect and I told him how I just moved in and went to get coffee. He said it was suspicious of someone from Fulton Co being in that neighborhood so early in the morning. By this time he has ran my driver's license and in GA the license plate info will tell them that my registration and insurance are current. So he comes back and again asked me what I was doing there. Again I told him I just bought a home there and was coming back from getting coffee, which I showed him the bag.

He asked me if I had any guns knives explosives or anything in my Jeep that might hurt him. I said no. He asked if he could search my vehicle. I told him no. He pulled out his gun, but did not point it at me, and said to step out of the car, bc he smelled MJ and didn't need my permission to search. And he called for k-9 backup. The dog didn't alert and he spent 45 minutes going through my Jeep to find nothing. I kept telling him and the backup that I do not smoke MJ and there was nothing in my Jeep for them to find.

Finally he walks back and asks me who was riding with me. Did I have someone else in the car earlier who was smoking weed. Again, no. He asked me if I was smoking weed earlier. I told him I already informed them multiple times I do not smoke weed and I was getting upset they were doing this on the streets of my new neighborhood. He handed me back my license and said I had 30 days to register the car Jeep in the new county and he patrolled my area daily so he would know if I did.

I took my license and left. After that day I believe black guys who say the cops lied about smelling weed and/or planted it on them.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:20 pm to
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The threat of possibly losing your life is an emotionally charged moment, no?


he pulled the dude over for a broken taillight, and wound up killing him. Cop overreacted and should have been convicted. if you can't handle stressful situations, don't join the force.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:51 am to
If both brake lights are out I can see pulling someone over. That could in fact be dangerous. But if it's just one, leave me the hell alone and go chase a real criminal.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:35 am to
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Cop overreacted


In what way? What should he have done differently besides your obvious answer of "not shoot him."

I can think of several things, but that doesn't mean he should be charged criminally.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:53 am to
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In what way?


well let's see...he shot a guy 7 times who was unarmed, into a car with an unarmed woman and small child.

quote:


I can think of several things, but that doesn't mean he should be charged criminally.


yeah, shoulda just said "my bad, sorry" and went on his way. Maybe if Castille had not mentioned the gun he would not have been so nervous.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 12:02 pm to
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Maybe if Castille had not mentioned the gun he would not have been so nervous.


I mean, he waited three whole seconds before blasting him.
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