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re: Pharmacies and the long wait... what am I missing?

Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:38 pm to
I am a PharmD (hospital) but have done stints in retail.

Long and the short of it is you aren't the only customer, problems arise with insurance or the actual script that need to be resolved, and people occasionally need to take a shite.

97% of the time, people aren't standing around twiddling their thumbs just because.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:39 pm to
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I am sure there is the unnecessary paper work that needs be filed. Further, you probably have the pharmacist trying to handle some Medicaid patient trying to get more free stuff.
And to top it all off, I am sure the Walgreens and CVS's of the world have figured out how to just understaff the pharmacy just enough to keep getting money from you and their maximizing profits by keeping labor cost low.

This is my feeling as well, though I was hoping to get a knowledgeable response from someone in the industry.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:39 pm to
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2. They want you to walk around the store and buy other stuff.

Unless the pharmacist owns the pharmacy or store, this does not make any sense. Your Walgreens pharmacist does not work on any sort of commission related to store purchases
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:40 pm to
Well the 90% use case is that the pharmacy has all of your info, they just have to fill the script and give it to you.

Which means if they filled when you came in to pay, you'd wait 5-10 minutes while they filled your script.

But now let's say you happen to walk in and 6 people are in line ahead of you. Under the same model, you'd pay for your script within a couple of minutes but then you'd be waiting up to an hour for it to get filled. (Assuming one person filling. Obviously a pharmacy may have more, but not always).

So instead of bitching about what you are, you'd be bitching about long pharmacy lines and waits.

Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106044 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:41 pm to
My prescription just needs to be taken out of the fridge and I still have to wait forever...
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:46 pm to
Because these pharmacies also fill scripts from nursing homes and assisted livings where there's over 100+ people with 10 scripts each. Also other people need refills ahead of you. So take a chill pill.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:46 pm to
Usually insurance approval to fill your meds and the "No fricks given" attitude of overworked staff. Pharmacists dont give one damn about how long it takes.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:46 pm to
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I am a PharmD (hospital) but have done stints in retail.

Thanks for the reply.

I just don't see it.

I get that I'm not the only customer, but hell, every business has multiple customers. How many people go through Chick-fil-a everyday?

And I get that there are complications that arise with insurance and whatnot. But damn, it just shouldn't take longer to fill a script than it takes a family of four, all with special orders, to dine at a restaurant.

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97% of the time, people aren't standing around twiddling their thumbs just because.
I'm not entirely blaming the workers here. If there's something inherently wrong with the system then I'm curious as to what that is and why it hasn't been addressed.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97635 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:46 pm to
Avoid chain pharmacies like cvs and Walgreens
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:47 pm to
Who hands the pharmacist a paper script?! Haven't done this in over a decade. Everything is electronic, get with the times.

ETA: I jumped the gun; haven't been to a doctor (sans girly checkups) since 2005. Do they really still give the pharmacist a piece of paper? How archaic.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:54 pm to
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there's something inherently wrong with the system then I'm curious as to what that is and why it hasn't been addressed.


There isn't. You're just impatient.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:55 pm to
If you went to chick-fil-a and they had blowfish on the menu do you think an order of blowfish will be on the menu long if they just threw it together and out the window?

I can personally say my wife's life was saved by a pharmacist because they took their time to fill out a script correctly.

You can have multimple doctors and they do not always check what the other doctor prescribed. Wrong combination and you will die in minutes.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:56 pm to
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Well the 90% use case is that the pharmacy has all of your info, they just have to fill the script and give it to you.

Which means if they filled when you came in to pay, you'd wait 5-10 minutes while they filled your script.
More like 2 or 3... they're just counting pills here.

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But now let's say you happen to walk in and 6 people are in line ahead of you. Under the same model, you'd pay for your script within a couple of minutes but then you'd be waiting up to an hour for it to get filled.
I was thinking that if it took (using your idea) 5-10 minutes per person then I'd see the line of 6 people and decide to either go elsewhere or just wait.

In my mind the person in the front of the line wouldn't walk away until they had their pills. Then the next person would begin their order. This could be somewhat streamlined by having multiple workers in the operation (one the cashier, the other the script filler) and by having the "complicated" customers step to the side and speak with someone else.

If it is the case of a long line of people and the store wants them milling about in hopes that they'll buy something else, then the store could just use the "take a number" system that the busy bakeries use.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Do they really still give the pharmacist a piece of paper? How archaic.


Yep.. and with some meds it is required because of the government control of the substance.

I'm required to get a paper script every single month for a prescription I've been taking for years. The doctor isn't even allowed to put more than a month's supply on the script either. So, every month, same old song and dance.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16905 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:07 pm to
Mr. Gower never made people wait.

Maybe you should go to Mr. Gower's Pharmacy next time.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5710 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:07 pm to
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I'm required to get a paper script every single month for a prescription I've been taking for years


Wrong
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Member since Jul 2012
12096 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:13 pm to
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They have to triple check everything and are so damn sensitive to them being sued for giving wrong pills and shite
I remember years ago some company was attempting to introduce a fully automated system. It was essentially a large robotic system that would grab the pill supply, sort out the correct amount, place them in a pill container, affix a label, and then hand it over. The system was much much faster than any human could be and in multiple studies (including an extended "real world" test by the military) its accuracy rate was higher than human pharmacists. However, the APhA raised such a stink that it never caught on.

Another anecdote for you - last year at an LSU Baseball game there was a drug rep sitting behind me and she was quite the talker (she didn't shut up the entire game, and none of what she said had anything to do with baseball ). She was saying that her company was trying to place something like complex vending machines into doctors offices. The doctors could use these to dispense the meds and give them to the patient before they left the office. No need for a pharmacy. But there again, the pharmacists' union was pushing back against these machines and this lady's company was having trouble getting them placed.
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:21 pm to
Its called pre authorization. If a narcotic they check doctor shopping website. Insurance companies dont wanna pay for most expensive option.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12096 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Wrong

I wish I were.


Since you've got a handle like
quote:

PillPusher
I'm going to ask if you're a pharmacist/in the industry?

If so, then you could probably guess what my script is.. I take it every morning and has been prescribed to me (in one form or another) since grade school. It also is probably the most prescribed drug in the country to college students.

At any rate, I have been told that it cannot be called in and that I have to have a script for it. The script cannot be for more than one month's supply. And that they recently changed the laws to allow the doctor to write three scripts at once (only one doctor's visit) and allow me to just come by and pick up the other two - one each month.

Believe me, I really really wish I didn't have to go through all those hoops to get my meds, but those are the rules as I understand them and that is what I've been having to do. If you know otherwise then please let me know.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5710 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:26 pm to
If your doctor isn't 80 years old and can use a computer he can electronically send your prescription in. He probably won't tho because he wants you to pay him every month or three months for an office visit. Take it up with him.
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