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re: Pergola Cover Options
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:12 am to Napoleon
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:12 am to Napoleon
My back patio is right smack in the middle of my house so it would be next to impossible to see from anywhere by my backyard. Would you guys recommending putting my support post in the soil, next to the previously poured concrete, or placing the support post on the concrete and securing with long arse bolts?
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:13 am to Black n Gold
But some supports and put in concrete. Much easier to change if they ever rot
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:14 am to Creamer
Corrugated polycarbonate tinted panels are easily damaged by decent sized hail
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:29 am to Creamer
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I do not doubt the 4x4's can support the weight. It is the connection at the bottom of the 6x6, I would be concerned about shear over time and more importantly the moment on it during heavy wind.
They are connected with 3/4" lag bolts pre drilled and screwed in at the bottom. If they were by themselves, that would be a concern, but the 2x6's at the top are also connected to the posts with lag bolts, and those 2x6's are connected are braced with the other 2x6's and the 1x4 slats on top. Then there are the handrails. There are a lot of parts that would have to seperate in order for the columns to fail. I just don't see that happening, even in high wind.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:44 am to Black n Gold
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My back patio is right smack in the middle of my house so it would be next to impossible to see from anywhere by my backyard. Would you guys recommending putting my support post in the soil, next to the previously poured concrete, or placing the support post on the concrete and securing with long arse bolts?
This is my exact situation and I have been considering a pergola over a patio cover for various reasons.
Mine is about 20x20 and surrounded on 3 sides by my house. I would put the posts directly on the patio (maybe with some water resistant treatment (beam cap)) to avoid rot over time. One problem I am having is that one of the corner posts would potentially interfere with traffic exiting my kitchen door (most highly trafficked door). I'm toying with ways to eliminate (or move) that upright post and tie-in directly to my eaves in that corner.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:55 am to BugAC
quote:. This is what I have used on both of my pergolas. I would suggest the bronze tint, instead of the clear. The bronze acts like sun glasses and provides more shade than the clear. Having the cover also allows for ceiling fans to be installed.
The other option is a corrugated polycarbonate tinted panels. Basically tinted corrugated panels, that allows light in, but provides some shade. The other advantage, is that this would provide some rain cover, if i wanted to sit outside during the rain.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:00 am to BugAC
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BugAC
What are the dimensions of your pergola?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:33 am to Sid in Lakeshore
my dad works for a coffee company. He gave me about 25 coffee bags, the kind that green coffee beans ship in. They look like burlap potato sacks. anyway, my plan is to staple them on the roof of my pergola for shade. They should last 6-8 months before needing replacements from wear and tear. they look pretty cool too.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:43 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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Sid in Lakeshore
Sounds like our houses are a replica of each other. I was wondering if I tie just that portion into the eave, if I could avoid putting a support beam in that corner.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:47 am to BugAC
If shade is what you're looking for, inset lattice between your pergola rafters.
Like this:
Like this:
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:49 am to Green Chili Tiger
Dang, that's nice. 
Is it redwood?
Is it redwood?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:50 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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What are the dimensions of your pergola?
12x20.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:50 am to VetteGuy
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Is it redwood?
Looks like it. It's not mine, I just pulled a pic from the internet.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:51 am to Green Chili Tiger
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If shade is what you're looking for, inset lattice between your pergola rafters
I like the lattice.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:58 am to BugAC
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I like the lattice.
You can also get lattice in White Vinyl for a little color and the Vinyl is extremely durable.
Best pic I could find to give you an idea what it looks like with wood:
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:02 am to Green Chili Tiger
What is the best wood to use in terms of low maintenance?
Cedar or redwood?
Cedar or redwood?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:10 am to VetteGuy
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What is the best wood to use in terms of low maintenance?
Cedar or redwood?
You'll have to treat (and re-treat periodically) both.
Redwood is typically a more visually smooth wood that holds it treatment well. Cedar is usually rough sawn (think cedar fence pickets) and discolors faster.
That being said, Cedar "weathers" to a nice silver color while redwood tends to weather more dingy.
Weathered Cedar:
Weathered Redwood:
If your going to paint it go with redwood.
Vinyl is an expensive but durable option as well.
Vinyl Pergola:
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:22 am to BugAC
Wisteria goes dormant in winter looks like bunch of sticks. There is evergreen wisteria but not sure how fast it grows or if it blooms in first year etc. An idea for you; confederate jasmine in large pots, up on the deck, one each corner, grows like mad, evergreen, blooms couple of times year smells great. You could use 2 pots Confederate Jasmine (white blossoms)and 2 Carolina Jasmine (yellow blossoms), both grow same speed mostly, very fast.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:05 pm to Jimmydatiger
I had the same situation at my old house. I used the tinted polycarbonate panels and did not like them. It gave my patio the greenhouse effect and was just as hot. Also my bedroom was near the back porch and when it rained it sounded louder like the rain was beating a drum. Solid shade is the way to go. I removed the tinted plastic and used a product from Lowes called Ondura. It is an asphalt based panel that is painted different colors. It was much quieter and provided full shade. Easy to install also. I had TV and fans underneath so leaking is not an issue if installed right.. Look into this if you go with the solid panels.
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