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re: Pencil whipping,,, still being used as valid reason for terminating problem operators???

Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:45 am to
Posted by ArkLaTexTiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2473 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:45 am to
The first offense gets a "Coaching and Counseling" session with the supervisor. Second time gets a letter in the personnel file. The third time could lead to termination.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11303 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:47 am to
Faking records
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7014 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:51 am to
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At first I thought this was about the game we all played in school where you hold your pencil and the other person gets a shot to use their pencil to break yours and you go back and forth until someone's pencil breaks.


you mean "pee-yoncil break"?
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7290 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:20 am to
quote:

40 years ago catching a problem operator pencil whipping logs and laboratory analysis was a doable termination because the data was critical to safe operation of the plant. Still done today????



With everything stored in DCS for the most part and able to be trended and reviewed very easily, it would be quite risky to pencil whip readings.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49032 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:42 am to
In the union plants it's more or less impossible to fire someone
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49032 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:42 am to
Its pencil whack baw
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7014 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Its pencil whack baw

when I was in middle school, my grandma gave me one of those little lead figurine sets where you melt the lead and make army soldiers. I took the eraser out of a pencil and filled with with lead, then painted the top pink. Commenced to turn pencils into splinters
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34845 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:59 am to
David Hackworth said in the army it was known as the M1 pencil.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:26 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12277 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:09 am to
Agreed. All inspections/tests we do these days are verified with electronic logs. Would be pretty bold to check a box without actually performing the test. And yes, one should be fired. That’s inexcusable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261680 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:12 am to
quote:

I’ve been working from home for 18 months.


Thanks for that information.
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4705 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:18 am to
All depends. It typically doesn’t matter unless it’s egregious, but the people that do it know what the typical numbers should read. Now when there’s a situation that occurs and they decide to investigate previous shift readings and who recorded them.. that’s your arse. But even still, if your facility is unionized then good luck canning someone easily.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:49 am to
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We have people that do it and bosses know they do. Their reading sheets will be blank all week then at the end of their shift its all filled out. They must have a great memory to remember a weeks worth of readings.



I bet these guys post here like crazy during the week
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:51 am to
Is anyone going to explain exactly what pencil whipping is? Sounds like just making shite up for a report but would like clarification.
Posted by MSG
B.R.
Member since Dec 2007
11215 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:02 am to
Exxon guy I see…
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7322 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:09 am to
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Is anyone going to explain exactly what pencil whipping is? Sounds like just making shite up for a report but would like clarification.

It’s some gay initiation rite that operators in Louisiana and a Texas do.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21736 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:15 am to
It's also called padding numbers. Say you're supposed check readings on some gauges every hour. They are always the same so you get lazy and skip your hourly gauge check and write in the readings based on the history. It's laziness and low character.
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4705 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:28 am to
as soon as he said C&C
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4705 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:


Is anyone going to explain exactly what pencil whipping is? Sounds like just making shite up for a report but would like clarification.


It’s fudging the numbers. Let’s say you have to run pH samples every shift. You’ve done that sample hundreds of times, thousands of time even, and it’s always between an 8 and 9. You decide to stop actually running a sample and just start putting a number between 8 and 9. That’s pencil whipping.
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