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Owners of large dog breeds - be on the lookout for bloat/GDV (had a scare last night)
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:18 am
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Gastric dilatation volvulus (GDV), also known as twisted stomach or gastric torsion, is a medical condition in which the stomach becomes overstretched and rotated by excessive gas content. The word bloat is often used as a general term to mean gas distension without stomach torsion (a normal change after eating), or to refer to GDV.
GDV is a life-threatening condition in dogs that requires prompt treatment. It is common in certain dog breeds; deep-chested breeds are especially at risk. Mortality rates in dogs range from 10 to 60 percent, even with treatment.[1] With surgery, the mortality rate is 15 to 33 percent
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As a general rule, gastric dilatation-volvulus is of greatest risk to deep-chested dogs. The five breeds at greatest risk are Great Danes, Weimaraners, St. Bernards, Gordon Setters, and Irish Setters.[19] In fact, the lifetime risk for a Great Dane to develop gastric dilatation-volvulus has been estimated to be close to 37 percent.[20] Standard Poodles are also at risk for this health problem,[12] as are Irish Wolfhound,[6] Doberman Pinschers, Rottweilers,[21] German Shorthaired Pointer, German Shepherds, Rhodesian ridgebacks. Basset Hounds and Dachshunds have the greatest risk for dogs less than 50 lb (23 kg)
More reading here
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Initial signs are often associated with abdominal pain. These can include but are not limited to:
an anxious look or looking at the abdomen
standing and stretching
drooling
distending abdomen
retching without producing anything
I've always heard about dogs dying from bloat, but never had an experience with it firsthand. Last night, Sophie (oldest poodle - 6 or 7, cant remember smh) wouldn't sit down and kept pacing back and forth. When my parents let her out, she tried to throw up, but couldnt. She proceeded to lie down in the grass, which is very out of the ordinary. Parents took her to emergency clinic in Lafayette and they were like "she doesn't have bloat, it's prob just a stomach ache. bring her back in the morning." Tards.
Parents got them to X-ray her and got the infamous "smurf hat" image of the stomach.
They sent Soph to LSU Vet Clinic saying they'd be better equipped to handle it. Confirmed the radiographs and said she needed to be put in surgery right away. They basically drain the stomach with a tube or large bore needle, go in and untwist the stomach, reposition it, then tack it to the dog's abdominal wall(gastropexy). if too much time has passed, then the dog will likely die from the stomach being too necrotic, arrhythmia, etc.
Since we got Sophie in so early, everything looked fine on the inside and all of her tests came back good to go. When they used the tube to drain the stomach, it pretty much untwisted itself, so they didn't have to do much besides the gastropexy. Got 0 sleep and stayed at the LSU Vet all night, but oh well. She's got 6-7 more good years, so it was worth it.
My point is, dont take it lightly if your dog is behaving as described above. Time is critical for these cases, as the necrosis can compromise the dog very quickly and force your hand re: euthanasia. If we had listened to the retarded Lafayette vets, Sophie would've croaked this morning. You can't always visually assess a bloated stomach. Better to be safe than sorry.
Also, consider getting a gastropexy as a preventative measure when getting your dog fixed. Our primary vet never offered that up, but LSU doc said they usually recommend it.
Surgery was done by a 1st year resident, but she was awesome. Had no doubts the entire time.
AubiealumDVM, come drop some knowledge in this thread
Yay sophie. Should be able to bring her home in a few days.
From fark board
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:20 am to Carson123987
Yep.
I made a thread on the OB about this when our fam dog had it happen when I was visiting.
Good thing is the signs were obvious. Different demeanor.
I made a thread on the OB about this when our fam dog had it happen when I was visiting.
Good thing is the signs were obvious. Different demeanor.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:23 am to Carson123987
#rideforsophie
#sophiestrong
#sophiestrong
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 10:24 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:24 am to Pectus
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Good thing is the signs were obvious. Different demeanor.
this. It's extremely painful and you can tell. Time is so crucial
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:26 am to Carson123987
We've had several danes and this does need to be taken serious. Gastropexy is a good call.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:27 am to Carson123987
It was the 1st thing my vet told me about after getting my weimaraner. Glad to here yours is ok.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:28 am to Carson123987
we have a Dane and keep a close eye out for such
good reminder
good reminder
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:34 am to Carson123987
I have a miniature poodle named Max who turns 16 this December. Never had a serious health issue. Even now he is deaf, blind and breath like a garbage dumpster on a hot day but still seems happy and no pain.
Cuts me deep thinking about the day he isn't there when I get home.
I had thought about getting a standard poodle when he is gone. Is bloat common in the breed?
Here is Max after a haircut looking his most dapper:
Here is what he *actually* looks like 99.99% of the day:
Cuts me deep thinking about the day he isn't there when I get home.
I had thought about getting a standard poodle when he is gone. Is bloat common in the breed?
Here is Max after a haircut looking his most dapper:
Here is what he *actually* looks like 99.99% of the day:
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:39 am to Slip Screen
im getting it done on every dog from now on. <5% chance it occurs/reoccurs once it's tacked on
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:41 am to Wind
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Cuts me deep thinking about the day he isn't there when I get home.
I had thought about getting a standard poodle when he is gone. Is bloat common in the breed?
dude i was in full panic mode lmao. crazy how quickly things can turn
I don't think it's a surety or anything, but poodles fit the body type that leads to it (large dogs with big chests).
just get the gastropexy when fixing and dont worry about it anymore.
cant recommend the Standards enough. We've had 3. Super smart, great retrievers, no shedding. GOAT
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:42 am to Carson123987
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Super smart, great retrievers, no shedding. GOAT
Yeah mine is the runt of a miniature litter and he has been the best dog I've ever owned.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:56 am to Carson123987
One of our St. Bernards developed GDV immediately after having an FHO at the LSU vet school...I thought his resident was calling with a progress report the night after surgery, but he was calling to get consent for gastropexy!
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:59 am to Carson123987
I had a bloat scare with my dalmatian about a month ago. I came home for lunch and he is sprawled out on the floor whimpering and shaking. Stomach distended past his big, bowed chest.
Get to the kitchen, he has opened the cabinet and eaten a loaf of bread, two packs of tortillas, and a bag of chips (a-hole).
Had emergency X-rays done and luckily there was no bloat. Vets were very scared it was and I was nervous for the sweet angel, but everything ended up okay. Ended up inducing vomiting. 5 pounds worth. It was disgusting.
Smooooth $500 Tuesday afternoon. Lovely
Get to the kitchen, he has opened the cabinet and eaten a loaf of bread, two packs of tortillas, and a bag of chips (a-hole).
Had emergency X-rays done and luckily there was no bloat. Vets were very scared it was and I was nervous for the sweet angel, but everything ended up okay. Ended up inducing vomiting. 5 pounds worth. It was disgusting.
Smooooth $500 Tuesday afternoon. Lovely
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:04 am to JetFuelTyga
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Get to the kitchen, he has opened the cabinet and eaten a loaf of bread, two packs of tortillas, and a bag of chips (a-hole).
Glad the dog was okay but LOL how did he get after all that? Just hungry? Does he ever go after groceries before?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:30 am to Carson123987
I have a 10 yr old bloodhound who had it when she was 7...we watch her like a hawk.
bloat is the number one killer of bloodhounds
bloat is the number one killer of bloodhounds
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:30 am to Wind
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how did he get after all that?
He will not stop eating when he's full like a normal being. If it is in front of him- he will eat it. Every now and then (has happened about 10 times- he is 6 years old) he will treat himself to whatever is on the counter (dinner rolls, bread) if he's alone all day and we forgot to put up, but this time he opened kitchen cabinets and raided the place himself.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:34 am to Carson123987
I heard it can happen when you feed them too soon after hard excercise. Don't know how much truth to that there is.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:35 am to Carson123987
That's a big arse poodle
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:37 am to Carson123987
Happened to my dog and he died on the way to the vet. He was pretty old, though.
My wife called me to tell me he was gone literally as I was boarding a plane home. Cried the whole flight.
My wife called me to tell me he was gone literally as I was boarding a plane home. Cried the whole flight.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:45 am to ChatRabbit77
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heard it can happen when you feed them too soon after hard excercise. Don't know how much truth to that there is.
yes, this is found in many cases. no direct, concrete cause is known, just lots of different commonalities across cases. strange
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